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Annoying Catholics
July 21, 2013
2:47 pm
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irunsomeultras

If there's a topic near and dear to my heart it's the wave of crazy I found through a family member's blog: over-the-top Catholicism and anti-choice fundamentalism.  Particularly a number of bloggers/tweeters associated with the following websites:

Life News (not limited to Catholics) http://www.lifenews.com/category/national/

Bad Catholic (Patheos) http://www.patheos.com/blogs/badcatholic/

Themes that I've gathered from hate reading the above and other smaller, uber-Catholic bloggers:

1) Females should be modest – don't be a s**t and cause the menfolk to sin!  You're the problem!

2) Birth control is evil in all forms including condoms and the birth control pill is basically the same as RU-486

3) I did it just because the Catholic Church told me to – I don't question anything they say!

4) If you're pro-choice, you may as well rot in hell

5) Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, and other dickhead conservatives are God and you should vote for them.

6) The new pope is way soft on atheists and other sinners like those pesky homosexuals.

 

I jest to a degree, but if you're not familiar with conservative Catholics, politics are just as big of a "deal" to them as they are to your garden fare evangelicals.  I was personally raised Catholic and broke away from the church around my college years.  I identify as an agnostic, much to the chagrin of some of my family members.  I did not (luckily) have parents that were over the top with religion and raised me to think for myself.  I also did not feel my personal upbringing in my childhood parish (Sunday School, etc) was over the top and I was not forced into going to many retreats or the like.  I don't feel scarred in any way, just happy I don't have anything to do with the Catholic church anymore.  I don't harbor any ill will to anyone who is religious, but when you start dictating national policy, esp. regarding the rights of women, and cramming your beliefs down everyone's throat, that's where I draw the line.

Anyone else out there a former catholic that gets ragey at this sort of thing?

July 21, 2013
3:39 pm
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pearls_clutched
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Meows: 872
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January 23, 2012

You can't skip Mark Shea if you are talking annoying – he's horrible about gay people - http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markshea/

July 21, 2013
6:06 pm
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katstuck
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October 22, 2011

ok, i got into these blogs in a hate-read way for a while. in my previous career, i was helping a friend working on a reporting project on religion and found myself sucked in. i was also raised catholic, fwiw. but what i really noticed is that most of the extreme mommybloggers on the catholic scene are converts.  here's a more mild example.

 

http://patentsgirl.blogspot.com/

 

i dont know why i found myself sucked in. sometimes they hint at big problems with husband, having lots of kids, etc., but never go into detail. it's like i'm waiting for them to crack and say what's really up. ahhh! i'm not even practicing. anyone else?? 

July 21, 2013
6:10 pm
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irunsomeultras

pearls_clutched said
You can't skip Mark Shea if you are talking annoying – he's horrible about gay people - http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markshea/

 

Oh I forgot this guy!  He's one of the worst.

July 22, 2013
7:15 pm
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vintage people & fair aisle sweaters
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Meows: 3780
Snarking Since:
June 24, 2012

I'm a practicing Catholic, although at times I am anti-clerical (Cardinals Dolan and George especially)

Bill Donohue is awful. angry

July 25, 2013
6:09 pm
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Helen Van Patterson Patton
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December 15, 2012

BaconRunner said
If there's a topic near and dear to my heart it's the wave of crazy I found through a family member's blog: over-the-top Catholicism and anti-choice fundamentalism.  Particularly a number of bloggers/tweeters associated with the following websites:

Life News (not limited to Catholics) http://www.lifenews.com/category/national/

Bad Catholic (Patheos) http://www.patheos.com/blogs/badcatholic/

Themes that I've gathered from hate reading the above and other smaller, uber-Catholic bloggers:

1) Females should be modest – don't be a s**t and cause the menfolk to sin!  You're the problem!

2) Birth control is evil in all forms including condoms and the birth control pill is basically the same as RU-486

3) I did it just because the Catholic Church told me to – I don't question anything they say!

4) If you're pro-choice, you may as well rot in hell

5) Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, and other dickhead conservatives are God and you should vote for them.

6) The new pope is way soft on atheists and other sinners like those pesky homosexuals.

 

I jest to a degree, but if you're not familiar with conservative Catholics, politics are just as big of a "deal" to them as they are to your garden fare evangelicals.  I was personally raised Catholic and broke away from the church around my college years.  I identify as an agnostic, much to the chagrin of some of my family members.  I did not (luckily) have parents that were over the top with religion and raised me to think for myself.  I also did not feel my personal upbringing in my childhood parish (Sunday School, etc) was over the top and I was not forced into going to many retreats or the like.  I don't feel scarred in any way, just happy I don't have anything to do with the Catholic church anymore.  I don't harbor any ill will to anyone who is religious, but when you start dictating national policy, esp. regarding the rights of women, and cramming your beliefs down everyone's throat, that's where I draw the line.

Anyone else out there a former catholic that gets ragey at this sort of thing?

Former Catholic. #3 is my mother.  I love her.  I seriously do.  But she cannot think critically about anything and bases every single opinion she has on what the Church would say.  It drives me insane to the point that I cannot talk about anything political with her without rolling my eyes so damn hard.  You can't have an intelligent, thoughtful conversation with her because every response is, "yes, but the Church tells us…"  WHAT DO YOU THINK???

 

For the most part my life as a Catholic was pretty boring.  I did go to Catholic schools, but it wasn't at all overly religious.  I mean we went to mass weekly and prayed before lunch and had religion class, but it was pretty mild and religion didn't cross into the education parts.  I think the absolute nuttiest thing I ever heard was one time my mom made me go to this retreat at the diocese for like "introduction to puberty" for girls.  I remember they told us that we couldn't use tampons until we were married.  rolleyes.

 

I'm like you, I don't necessarily care what you want to believe, but please don't tell me what I need to do to get to heaven.  It's not really something that's high on my priority list. 

July 25, 2013
10:16 pm
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Wee

Is Pope Francis soft on homosexuals? Because I'm really loving him, and hoping he'll help pave the way for openness to gays in the church. 

July 25, 2013
11:05 pm
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The Old Bailey
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June 19, 2012


I'm a practicing Catholic and these f**kles make me want to punch a computer with their politics bullshit. Religion and politics are all the better when they stay the hell out of each others' business.

katstuck said
ok, i got into these blogs in a hate-read way for a while. in my previous career, i was helping a friend working on a reporting project on religion and found myself sucked in. i was also raised catholic, fwiw. but what i really noticed is that most of the extreme mommybloggers on the catholic scene are converts.  here's a more mild example.

 

I find this true in the IRL conservative Catholic crowd where I live. The converts are the ones who are REALLY over the top (as opposed to just regular over-the-top of those folks). 

July 26, 2013
1:28 pm
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vintage people & fair aisle sweaters
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Meows: 3780
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June 24, 2012

Wee (formerly WWWinkie) said
Is Pope Francis soft on homosexuals? Because I'm really loving him, and hoping he'll help pave the way for openness to gays in the church. 

As a Cardinal in Argentina, he fought marriage equality. It was quite vicious. Change in the Church will have to come from the masses.

For the most part, I find Pope Francis to be a disappointment.I know it's early, but his refusal to live in the Papal Residence and skipping out on social events is nothing compared to what needs to be done. The years of clerical abuse are a stain on the institution as a whole. The fact of the matter is that the powers that be allowed horrible people into the priesthood only to send them out into the parishes and schools. Something has to be done.

July 26, 2013
2:28 pm
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FrizzyFryFro
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Meows: 1148
Snarking Since:
February 12, 2013

Have any of you read Just Showing Up? (http://www.briannaheldt.com) She pushes all of my Atheist Rage Buttons (follows the church obsessively, took her kids to a Pro-Life Rally, adopts – but not from the US [my POV is that if you want to stop women from having abortions then *you* have to help out the children and/or mothers], and thinks the Pope is infallible). I always want to ask her if she'd feel comfortable leaving her children (I believe she has 2 sons – and, if I recall correctly, little boys are abused more than little girls) with men in her church – especially the higher ups, and if she'd be upset/angry/disgusted if those children were abused. I can't even hate read her because she makes me too angry! (She's a convert – someone up-thread mentioned that, so I thought I'd throw that in. wink)

 

Say Rah said : "I'm like you, I don't necessarily care what you want to believe, but please don't tell me what I need to do to get to heaven.  It's not really something that's high on my priority list." I agree – do they really think they get to decide what gets anyone into heaven? 

Also – I agree with what Tim Minchin says in his song about the Pope "I've no problem with the spiritual beliefs of other f**kers, while those beliefs don't impact on the happiness of others". Be what you want to be & believe what you want to believe, but don't try to make me feel guilty for what I believe.

Now I'm off to check out those blogs mentioned above!

July 27, 2013
1:21 am
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ILoveDavidTennentSoM

How about Conversion Diary? Its turned into a hate read for me; her finding God stuff was good but now she's full on anti-abortion rally/ gays must be celibate/ dont use birth control. She nearly died last pregnancy- and the condition gets worse everytime she gets pregnant. Please, die in your 30's with 6 little children. It's what god wants, you know.

gah!!

July 29, 2013
5:21 am
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Sister Friend
Senior Hamcat
Meows: 878
Snarking Since:
May 9, 2012

say rah said
….I don't necessarily care what you want to believe, but please don't tell me what I need to do to get to heaven.  It's not really something that's high on my priority list. 

There are a lot of conservative Catholic southern preppymommy bloggers. Whew – that is a lot of categories all mashed into one. But it exists, and for the most part, they seem more about being seen at mass with a pack of perfectly turned out children than they do being truly Christian. Lots of "oh noes those s**ts who want abortions are sinners, and oh yeah, if you didn't marry a rich Catholic southern boy who doesn't want you to work outside the home and expects you to maintain your college weight, well obviously you were some kind of w***e who doesn't deserve nice things", very little, "today I gave a homeless woman my tory burch boots, because she was shoeless".

July 29, 2013
9:38 am
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Wee

vintage people & fair aisle sweaters said

Wee (formerly WWWinkie) said
Is Pope Francis soft on homosexuals? Because I'm really loving him, and hoping he'll help pave the way for openness to gays in the church. 

As a Cardinal in Argentina, he fought marriage equality. It was quite vicious. Change in the Church will have to come from the masses.

 

This is what I thought I had read when he was chosen a few months back, so I was confused by the bloggers opinion that he was being soft about the topic. 

 

However… perhaps there is hope?!!!  

 

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/29/pope-francis-on-gays-who-am-i-to-judge/?hpt=hp_t1

 

sani_elephantdance



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