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Annoying Catholics
December 13, 2013
12:56 pm
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LilSebastian
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amm said

LilSebastian said

DrCP said
Not only "not practical," but actively harmful.

 

I know a whole slew of gay Catholics, men and women, who have no interest in celibacy because they feel that their relationships bring them closer to God, you know, challenge them to be kinder, more compassionate, more patient, more loving, and all around better Christians and better human beings. I have seen my gay friends become better human beings because of the love and acceptance of another human person. To say that a fraction of humanity is automatically cut off from that because of their "same-sex attraction" is crazy to me. 

 

LilSebastian, I consider myself Catholic, but for a while now, I've been attending an Episcopal/Anglo-Catholic church. Lots of gay folk there, amazing sermons, wonderful music, and lefty people. I hope you can find a church home where you feel comfortable, if that's what you want.

Thanks. I do want that! I'm about to move cities in January so I think I'll start actively looking for a church then. In the meantime, I'll continue to read these Catholic blogs that have no bearing on my life and that I violently disagree with. That's healthy, right? 

I had to stop reading a lot of stuff on the internet because I got so upset and it makes me hate people. I used to hate read little catholic bubble and it actually caused so much stress that I just can't even look at her site at all.

The thing that keeps me going to church is the Eucharist. We wandered around various churches for a bit and I always missed the Eucharist so I decided to go back to RC church. It was difficult. The sex scandal was so disturbing to me and still is. It actually makes me cry when I start thinking about it. It enrages me. It makes me so sad. I was in my early 30's when much of the scandal broke and it shook me pretty hard. My own father, who is the most devout Catholic I know, struggled so hard with staying. I didn't know that until recently when my mom told me. Anyhow, I don't judge people for leaving and hope I didn't come across that way. I completely get it. I think there are different paths to God and I hope if it's something you feel like you want, then I hope you find it in your new city.

 

Having said that, there are some great Catholic writers I hope you can enjoy reading. People like Thomas Merton and Henri Nouwen and Anthony De Melllo. All of them have helped me want to be a better person without making me think the only way there is by being Catholic, if that makes sense. If you ever want to cleanse your palette after reading some of the Catholic nonsense on the internet, give them a try. 

Thanks for the recommendations. And you didn't come across as judgmental at all: quite the opposite. 

February 15, 2014
10:47 pm
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ErsieDotes
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DrCP said

GP9 said
Check out 11onmyown.com…the whiniest, most judgmental person you'll ever read about.

Okay, so her eleven children range from age 28 to age 6. If she had her first three children during her first marriage, then at least three of her children are probably over 21, correct? Then she isn't parenting or supporting eleven children. Or if her older three children are living at home, then they can work and contribute to household expenses, no? So she isn't really "on her own." 

I do feel bad that her douchebag husband walked out on his wife and kids, and if she is to be believed, doesn't pay child support. 

On the other hand, in her about section, she says that her parents were shocked when she decided to get married and knocked up at age 18, rather than going to Yale and becoming a neurosurgeon. So maybe she and That Wife should start a club of bed-makers-and-liers.

I got sucked into this rabbit hole after reading these few comments and good God almighty, she is the worst kind of Catholic.  From what I can figure out she's been married and divorced three times.  Her children have at least two but possibly three different fathers.  She was separated from her second husband and already involved with her third husband when she got pregnant by her second husband.  She apparently kept that a secret for ten years until somehow her second husband sued her, there was a paternity test and her third husband eventually found out he wasn't the father of the child he thought was his first born.  From what she herself says and from public court documents found easily online by Googling her name, she is very difficult in court.  I am not sure I believe her or her ex-husband about the details of their divorce, etc.

That being said, she is the type who goes on rants about the way people dress at church and the fact that people talk after the Mass ends.  There is this rather outdated custom some people have of staying after the Mass for a period of adoration for ten minutes to a half an hour.  I never even heard of it until I was an adult and I've only seen it very rarely among Catholics I know to be very orthodox.  Nevertheless she's beside herself with the idea that people interrupt her time of prayer with their "butts in [her] face" while they talk about frivolities.  She uses the word "skank" a lot and then asks commenters to show her ONE TIME she's been judgmental.  All this from a woman with a more than checkered past as far as super Catholics go and a tendency to tell people to take the log out of their own eye.

She's in nursing school now.  Ten to one she can't find a job that suits her or she can't keep said job when they tell her she has to work second shift on Christmas as happened a few years ago when she worked in a nursing home.  Nothing could please this woman.

February 18, 2014
11:58 am
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Stephanie Vanderkellen
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ErsieDotes said

DrCP said

GP9 said
Check out 11onmyown.com…the whiniest, most judgmental person you'll ever read about.

Okay, so her eleven children range from age 28 to age 6. If she had her first three children during her first marriage, then at least three of her children are probably over 21, correct? Then she isn't parenting or supporting eleven children. Or if her older three children are living at home, then they can work and contribute to household expenses, no? So she isn't really "on her own." 

I do feel bad that her douchebag husband walked out on his wife and kids, and if she is to be believed, doesn't pay child support. 

On the other hand, in her about section, she says that her parents were shocked when she decided to get married and knocked up at age 18, rather than going to Yale and becoming a neurosurgeon. So maybe she and That Wife should start a club of bed-makers-and-liers.

I got sucked into this rabbit hole after reading these few comments and good God almighty, she is the worst kind of Catholic.  From what I can figure out she's been married and divorced three times.  Her children have at least two but possibly three different fathers.  She was separated from her second husband and already involved with her third husband when she got pregnant by her second husband.  She apparently kept that a secret for ten years until somehow her second husband sued her, there was a paternity test and her third husband eventually found out he wasn't the father of the child he thought was his first born.  From what she herself says and from public court documents found easily online by Googling her name, she is very difficult in court.  I am not sure I believe her or her ex-husband about the details of their divorce, etc.

That being said, she is the type who goes on rants about the way people dress at church and the fact that people talk after the Mass ends.  There is this rather outdated custom some people have of staying after the Mass for a period of adoration for ten minutes to a half an hour.  I never even heard of it until I was an adult and I've only seen it very rarely among Catholics I know to be very orthodox.  Nevertheless she's beside herself with the idea that people interrupt her time of prayer with their "butts in [her] face" while they talk about frivolities.  She uses the word "skank" a lot and then asks commenters to show her ONE TIME she's been judgmental.  All this from a woman with a more than checkered past as far as super Catholics go and a tendency to tell people to take the log out of their own eye.

She's in nursing school now.  Ten to one she can't find a job that suits her or she can't keep said job when they tell her she has to work second shift on Christmas as happened a few years ago when she worked in a nursing home.  Nothing could please this woman.

Yes, she is completely obsessed with the letter of the law and not the spirit of the law. She can't remove the plank from her own eye, either. (Oh wait, I see upon rereading that you already said that above. Bears repeating, though.)

She b***hes about everything — and it's ALWAYS someone else's fault, always, even her own personal life choices — and appreciates nothing. Her blog is just one long pity party with occasional pictures of her kids smiling and her looking all woe-is-me. GOMI.

February 18, 2014
2:51 pm
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ErsieDotes
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I just can't get over her lack of empathy.  For someone who has had so many twists and turns off the straight and narrow in her life and for someone who has struggled through her own fault and others, you'd think she'd have some understanding for other people.  Her thing about elderly people talking after church or in the sacristy before Mass just bugs sooooo much.  She cherishes her silence at Mass–which isn't a guarantee anyway, someone might be there with a handicapped adult who makes noises or a young child who does the same–but can she even consider the fact that the elderly people who make the trek to Mass each day might be terribly lonely and that the period after Mass might be the one and only time they speak to anyone all day?  Also that the community they find there is an important safety net whereby people notice if they are alright or need services or have been missing for a day or two?  I bet those same people are or have attempted to be very friendly to her.  What does she do?  Glare at them?

I also think she's lying her head off a lot of the time.  I don't believe a young man she knows walked by her at school and gave her a hard time for whining about her classes on her blog.  I don't think he said he has "roommates to take care of" because, among other things, I am positive she's going to a community college.  I also have a large family and I have never once had a young person I knew or didn't know speak to me like that–and my kids go to *gasp* public school with all the people she's afraid will teach her children the way to hell.  The only way I can believe that kid said something like that to her is that she personally offended him or his family when she was ranting about people in her life on her blog.  Even so, I still think she embellished the story.  I think she writes these things for the attention and the donations.

February 18, 2014
5:28 pm
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Stephanie Vanderkellen
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ErsieDotes said
I just can't get over her lack of empathy.  For someone who has had so many twists and turns off the straight and narrow in her life and for someone who has struggled through her own fault and others, you'd think she'd have some understanding for other people.  Her thing about elderly people talking after church or in the sacristy before Mass just bugs sooooo much.  She cherishes her silence at Mass–which isn't a guarantee anyway, someone might be there with a handicapped adult who makes noises or a young child who does the same–but can she even consider the fact that the elderly people who make the trek to Mass each day might be terribly lonely and that the period after Mass might be the one and only time they speak to anyone all day?  Also that the community they find there is an important safety net whereby people notice if they are alright or need services or have been missing for a day or two?  I bet those same people are or have attempted to be very friendly to her.  What does she do?  Glare at them?

I also think she's lying her head off a lot of the time.  I don't believe a young man she knows walked by her at school and gave her a hard time for whining about her classes on her blog.  I don't think he said he has "roommates to take care of" because, among other things, I am positive she's going to a community college.  I also have a large family and I have never once had a young person I knew or didn't know speak to me like that–and my kids go to *gasp* public school with all the people she's afraid will teach her children the way to hell.  The only way I can believe that kid said something like that to her is that she personally offended him or his family when she was ranting about people in her life on her blog.  Even so, I still think she embellished the story.  I think she writes these things for the attention and the donations.

And really, what 18-to-22-year-old guy is reading her blog?! I call bullshit. Oh, wait, that would offend her. I call HOGWASH.

And at the end of said post? "My life is hard. And I’m not complaining." MORE HOGWASH. That's what the entire blog is! Complaint after complaint after complaint, mixed in with quite a bit of s**t-shaming the rest of the world and judgment against probably perfectly nice people, like you mentioned. And apologies to her fellow Catholics for taking yoga. rolleyesrolleyesrolleyes

She's been called out on her whining before, and her defense is that it's HER blog and it's HER only means to vent. True enough, true enough. But don't get so defensive when people think it's a blog about being frugal and saving money — which is how I found it — or a blog about the happy times of a large Catholic family, and then they give you the side-eye because of your whining and judging. Just a thought. frown

February 27, 2014
9:25 am
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Wee said
How about Conversion Diary? Its turned into a hate read for me; her finding God stuff was good but now she's full on anti-abortion rally/ gays must be celibate/ dont use birth control. She nearly died last pregnancy- and the condition gets worse everytime she gets pregnant. Please, die in your 30's with 6 little children. It's what god wants, you know.

gah!!

She makes me absolutely batshit crazy.  She is monetizing her conversion and now after three or so years of being a Catholic she's the Expert of All Things Catholic.

I'm a cradle Catholic, and I have a real problem with these newly converted Rad Trads telling me how I should practice my faith.

Gah!

February 27, 2014
9:28 am
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Another one that makes me crazy – Elizabeth from "Heart of My Home"-

http://ebeth.typepad.com/

I don't know why I continue to read her blog – she's got about 16 kids and I'm a married Catholic who has chosen not to have children (we exist!).  Her smugness is off the charts.  She's currently shilling a $65 online "retreat" for Lent…I'll tell you why you're burned-out, lady:  it's because you're an admitted introvert who has chosen to have dozens of children and they're running you ragged.

February 27, 2014
10:27 am
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ErsieDotes
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Smugness among Catholics with large families is rampant.  Many definitely wear it like a badge of holiness.  There are plenty of sins that can hide behind your dress, your ugly mantilla and your cadre of kids though.  I caught on to the fact that Eleven On My Own's oldest son and his wife had their first baby before they were married and that they were apparently living together so not exactly repentant.  How can she have so little patience about the "sinful" way strangers dress and speak and be so tolerant of her child's falling into mortal sin?  I'll tell you how, she's a hypocrite.  Her rigidity only applies to circumstances that won't cause her direct discomfort–like losing the friendship of her son and the joy of her grandchild.  I also noticed that his wife and child are rarely in the pictures on the days he visits and makes a big dinner with his siblings.  Maybe she doesn't like to be on the blog but maybe she also avoids being around her nut bag MIL.  It seems that the DIL is her daughter's best friend too.  Hmmm…

February 27, 2014
10:50 am
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ErsieDotes
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kittykitty3 said
Another one that makes me crazy – Elizabeth from "Heart of My Home"-

http://ebeth.typepad.com/

I don't know why I continue to read her blog – she's got about 16 kids and I'm a married Catholic who has chosen not to have children (we exist!).  Her smugness is off the charts.  She's currently shilling a $65 online "retreat" for Lent…I'll tell you why you're burned-out, lady:  it's because you're an admitted introvert who has chosen to have dozens of children and they're running you ragged.

I couldn't get much of a feel for Elizabeth because she has no "About" section on her blog and her posts are so long, I just don't have time.  I clicked over to her Facebook page to see if I could figure more out and I realized her name sounds familiar.  Sure enough, I know one of her friends.  Small world.

March 11, 2014
8:36 pm
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Sorry, but I love Elizabeth Foss. I'm one of those annoying Catholics with a "gaggle" of kids and I think she's a pretty incredible author. She does come off a little…wispy?…for my tastes at times, but she is a huge boost to my spirit when I'm struggling.

As for thr quiet post-Mass thing, it's just a common courtesy. You can talk in the narthex, but can't really pray out there. Is it really so awful to ask people to be reverent so they can snag a moment at church for prayer? idontknow

March 12, 2014
10:21 am
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4000 dollar ham napkin said
Sorry, but I love Elizabeth Foss. I'm one of those annoying Catholics with a "gaggle" of kids and I think she's a pretty incredible author. She does come off a little…wispy?…for my tastes at times, but she is a huge boost to my spirit when I'm struggling.

As for thr quiet post-Mass thing, it's just a common courtesy. You can talk in the narthex, but can't really pray out there. Is it really so awful to ask people to be reverent so they can snag a moment at church for prayer? idontknow

In response, I think I'll quote ErsieDotes, "Smugness among Catholics with large families is rampant."

March 12, 2014
10:50 am
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I'm coming back to this thread for the first time in a few months, but I just found a blog called Camp Patton. She is a SOMI for me. My kind of Catholic, and the antithesis of a lot of Catholic bloggers. She seems so…normal. Another good one is Dianna Kennedy who writes The Kennedy Adventures. She has a big family, but she seems normal. I also love all of the Catholic kids' activities she has on her blog.

I'm a pretty devout Catholic (Daily Mass is my jam), and I've got six kids who I homeschool (Catholic school is SO expensive) so I'm like a walking stereotype (except I'm down with Vatican II). It's been really hard to find Catholic bloggers to whom I relate so I was excited to find them.

I used to love Elizabeth Foss, but I had to quit her some time ago. She just seems so preachy, and I can't relate to that uppity attitude about Catholicism. 

I just want my Catholic bloggers to be Catholic but not preachy or condescending, relatable, and funny. I don't need someone to preach to me about why wearing shorts or a tank top or not wearing a mantilla/veil is a mortal sin, because a) it isn't and b) whatever.

March 12, 2014
11:54 am
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ErsieDotes
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Sorry, but I love Elizabeth Foss. I'm one of those annoying Catholics with a "gaggle" of kids and I think she's a pretty incredible author. She does come off a little…wispy?…for my tastes at times, but she is a huge boost to my spirit when I'm struggling.

As for thr quiet post-Mass thing, it's just a common courtesy. You can talk in the narthex, but can't really pray out there. Is it really so awful to ask people to be reverent so they can snag a moment at church for prayer? idontknow



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