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FreeJinger
July 6, 2014
5:43 pm
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brave blogging, bullshit
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Meows: 425
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August 9, 2013

Oh, I bet they banned me right away! I was such a persona non grata there. I hear they have a GOMI thread that talks about how mean and vicious everyone is here. Talk about the ultimate pot calling the kettle black! lol

July 6, 2014
7:46 pm
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lifetime moment of truth
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Meows: 55
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January 29, 2014

grouphug

Patella Flex said

Oh, I bet they banned me right away! I was such a persona non grata there. I hear they have a GOMI thread that talks about how mean and vicious everyone is here. Talk about the ultimate pot calling the kettle black! lol

Agreed. I was a long time lurker there, and finally left after they went to a Maxwell conference and screamed at their adult children, calling the dad a cult leader. I'm not going to sit here and say that Steve Maxwell isn't an awful man who has damaged his children, but the best way to get them to leave that awful, lifelong, abusive situation definitely is not to stalk and yell at them and then hump their tour bus. What the f**k.

I heard that one of their long time members, an attorney no less, sent one of the Bates girls a wedding gift from her registry "from FJ". Come the f**k on. I'm no fan of their views, but those poor girls get one god damned day that's theirs and you had to taint it? And you're an attorney. Lovely.

Speaking of attorneys, a perfect segue into perhaps my biggest annoyance with FJ, legal pearl clutching. With folks who are so quick to out the personal details of people they snark on, call CPS based upon the veracity of misspelled blog posts, and physically show up at the residences/conferences/personal events of people they detest, hoo boy are they touchy about their own personal information! Bans! Tearful postings about the invasion of privacy! Bullshit legal threats! The terms of use! I mean honestly, I'm not about doxxing anyone, but for f**ks sake can you please not faint from surprise when, after shitting all over people and crossing almost every ethical line imaginable, those people want to let you taste your own medicine?

July 7, 2014
12:49 am
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Grown by politically correct Amish lesbians
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Meows: 1543
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October 31, 2011

Gizmola said
I am actually the one who really did send Emily of "Under 1000" a crib mattress and I used to write on the parody blog about her.

 

You're right, though – I was much too involved and obsessed. Long story short: Bad Breakup = Needed Something New to Obsess About & Emily Was It.

 

As far as the crib mattress goes, I really did send it sincerely. Perhaps not my best idea in the world, but it truly was well intentioned.  Since I was also writing on the parody and making fun of her, I certainly don't deserve any points. I was at best, misguided, and at worst, a two-faced b***h.

 

I sorta let FJ go by the wayside when things went wonky because it seemed like everyone was just pissed off about everyone and everything and I just failed at keeping straight who did what when where why and how. 

 

jimzmum – I wanted to read up on the Duggar engagements and while I could log on, I was banned from reading anything. I emailed them and it allowed me on but the design now sucks and somehow I feel little interest in what's going on there. 

 

For full disclosure, I do read ThatWife and post in that thread here at GOMI. And outside of one "I just can't not say it" comment on her Instagram, I keep my distance and plan to completely. I cannot get all crazy-insane again. Yeah, snark is fun – total obsession is ridiculous. (and yes, I was totally obsessed in a bad way with Emily)

I remember you, Gizmola! I was never active on FJ, just read the threads. A few years ago, when I was at a high stress job, I would laugh so hard reading Emily's blog and then yours. I did think you crossed the line a few times, but seeing your perspective now changes my mind about that. I was surprised she sold the crib mattress and actually don't believe she did so. I think she said it just to make herself look like she didn't need anyone's help, but kept it and used it. She was kind of a pack rat, after all. In hindsight, I think it's good she left her online life. Her kids were little, like 3, 2, and 1? I can't remember. It seemed like she spent an awful lot of time on her blog, those guest posts she wrote for fundie frugal blogs, obsessing over her "haters," swagbucks, and so forth. Maybe stepping away put the focus back on her kids. As much as I want to follow the crazy, I'm happy her kids went back to being her main focus, being a SAHM! I wish there was a "where are they now?" type blog. She's one blogger I would love to know more about and see what she's up to now!

July 7, 2014
5:30 am
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grass-fed gelatin
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February 27, 2014

Yes, Emily is somebody I've occasionally wondered about, since she shut down her blog. The pink slime-based meals were appalling, and her ideas of how to fit a huge number of kids into a tiny apartment were wack, obviously, but there was something about her that made me think she wasn't entirely stupid, and if she could just lose some of her stubbornly-held crazy beliefs, there might be an OK person in there, somewhere.

Granted, I could be way too generous in my recollection, since it's been so long, but I didn't think she was totally hopeless. I do seem to think for whatever Woo! Patriarchy! views she was expressing, she was definitely running the show. Her husband didn't come across as very bright or much of a leader.

July 7, 2014
8:33 am
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Daisy
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Meows: 1884
Snarking Since:
May 6, 2012

Last I heard they had their 5th child, all boys I think. Dan had left bible school and it sounded like they had left church altogether. They had bought a very run down fixer upper house, and I mean Very run down, but I don't remember where. I think Emily may have been working too, but not sure. This is all hazy memories from when I used to read more at free jinger.
GizmoLa, I remember you too. I was never a big poster at free jinger and hardly ever even read there anymore. I logged in recently for the first time in weeks and the new layout is a bit confusing. Switching to mobiLe style helped a lot

July 7, 2014
9:47 pm
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Jelly School
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Meows: 254
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January 30, 2013

Patella Flex said

Oh, I bet they banned me right away! I was such a persona non grata there. I hear they have a GOMI thread that talks about how mean and vicious everyone is here. Talk about the ultimate pot calling the kettle black! lol

Yes! I occasionally lurk fj when I get curious about the duggers. I thought there was too much of a militant atheist vibe going on over there. So I never registered or anything. Thought maybe it was kind of like websleuths, interesting info just really intense people. I could not believe it when I saw the GOMI thread about how mean and vicious this forum is, that's when I knew I was dealing with a different kind of crazy!

July 8, 2014
11:29 am
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Expensive Organic Ar

I've been a long time lurker & sometimes poster at FJ for years but lately the board has stopped holding my interest. The lack of new topics and how obsessive the members can be has been off-putting to me. Don’t get me wrong, I am definitely guilty of being just as obsessive. I enjoy snark & discussions on how ridiculous bloggers can be (hence my lurking out here) but over the past few months I have been lightening up on my views/judgments.

Some of the creepy incidents at FJ in the past 2-3 years have helped with this reevaluation. The first one was the Maxwell conference incident mention by lifetime moment of truth. I remembered being shocked about how many people were praising the 3 members who confronted Steve Maxwell & humped their bus. It wasn’t an empowering moment, it was just plain obnoxious. Another incident related to the Maxwell s was when a member posted that they were sitting in their car outside the Maxwell’s house. A few people, including me, commented it was inappropriate but there was a larger contingent who were cheering the person on & telling the rest of us to lighten up. The moment that really made me start reevaluating was the member who sent a wedding gift to Erin Bates back in November. The member tried to backtrack and claim he/she had not signed FreeJinger on the gift card but their first post about it did say they had mentioned the board’s name on the gift. It was disturbing to see people being so excited about it &, once again, act like dissenters were overreacting. There are plenty of other instances of members intruding on fundie’s lives outside the boards but these are the ones that have stuck with me.

The thing that has bothered me the most out of all these situations is that the board owner refuses to acknowledge how inappropriate these actions are & take steps to discourage people from acting like stalkers. In fact, he/she has participated in some of it. It’s crazy. I really do appreciate how Alice & the rest of the members on GOMI shut down anyone who tries to pull the same crap here.

Sorry for the long post. I’ve had some stuff to get off my chest. Now back to lurking!

July 8, 2014
3:55 pm
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I fucking love scien

I recall hearing over here that one FJer had been arrested for posting that she was planning on crashing a Duggar conference to cause a scene.  FJ also crashed another Maxwell conference a few years ago (I think) and didn't cause any problems other than signing "Jinger Freeh" or something like that in a guestbook.  That's probably the least obnoxious publicity stunt they've done.

There was also another member who drove by the Duggars' house and posted pictures of it.  Some of the info about the neighborhood in general was interesting (apparently, the Duggar compound really sticks out) but it was really pretty creepy.  I think that might have been the one instance of someone intruding on fundies' lives that didn't go over well on FJ… or at least as well as the poster had hoped.  A good number of people called her out, though most of the posters were really excited and just egged her on for more.  

I haven't read Free Jinger in over a year so my memory is fuzzy, too.  

The bus-humping event was the beginning of the end for me, tbh.  Free Jinger seems to fancy itself as a fundie Anonymous.  It….isn't. 

July 8, 2014
5:55 pm
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Nadines Eye Patch
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Meows: 380
Snarking Since:
August 13, 2013

Every time I read this girl's name I say it like singer even though I know it's Ginger.

July 8, 2014
7:01 pm
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brave blogging, bullshit
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Meows: 425
Snarking Since:
August 9, 2013

Arise Chicken said
I've been a long time lurker & sometimes poster at FJ for years but lately the board has stopped holding my interest. The lack of new topics and how obsessive the members can be has been off-putting to me. Don’t get me wrong, I am definitely guilty of being just as obsessive. I enjoy snark & discussions on how ridiculous bloggers can be (hence my lurking out here) but over the past few months I have been lightening up on my views/judgments.

Some of the creepy incidents at FJ in the past 2-3 years have helped with this reevaluation. The first one was the Maxwell conference incident mention by lifetime moment of truth. I remembered being shocked about how many people were praising the 3 members who confronted Steve Maxwell & humped their bus. It wasn’t an empowering moment, it was just plain obnoxious. Another incident related to the Maxwell s was when a member posted that they were sitting in their car outside the Maxwell’s house. A few people, including me, commented it was inappropriate but there was a larger contingent who were cheering the person on & telling the rest of us to lighten up. The moment that really made me start reevaluating was the member who sent a wedding gift to Erin Bates back in November. The member tried to backtrack and claim he/she had not signed FreeJinger on the gift card but their first post about it did say they had mentioned the board’s name on the gift. It was disturbing to see people being so excited about it &, once again, act like dissenters were overreacting. There are plenty of other instances of members intruding on fundie’s lives outside the boards but these are the ones that have stuck with me.

The thing that has bothered me the most out of all these situations is that the board owner refuses to acknowledge how inappropriate these actions are & take steps to discourage people from acting like stalkers. In fact, he/she has participated in some of it. It’s crazy. I really do appreciate how Alice & the rest of the members on GOMI shut down anyone who tries to pull the same crap here.

Sorry for the long post. I’ve had some stuff to get off my chest. Now back to lurking!

Yeah, and the previous board owner was just as bad, before she absconded with a bunch of money from Free Jinger, that is. And she personally appointed the current owner, so that gives you an idea of just how up-and-up (not) the administration of that board is. There have been a few forums put up to expose and discuss all the shadiness that goes on at Free Jinger, but they all get taken down. Makes me wonder if their "lawyer" admin is sending threatening letters or something. Shady, shady, shady. others-221

July 8, 2014
7:34 pm
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lifetime moment of truth
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Meows: 55
Snarking Since:
January 29, 2014

Patella Flex said

Arise Chicken said
I've been a long time lurker & sometimes poster at FJ for years but lately the board has stopped holding my interest. The lack of new topics and how obsessive the members can be has been off-putting to me. Don’t get me wrong, I am definitely guilty of being just as obsessive. I enjoy snark & discussions on how ridiculous bloggers can be (hence my lurking out here) but over the past few months I have been lightening up on my views/judgments.

Some of the creepy incidents at FJ in the past 2-3 years have helped with this reevaluation. The first one was the Maxwell conference incident mention by lifetime moment of truth. I remembered being shocked about how many people were praising the 3 members who confronted Steve Maxwell & humped their bus. It wasn’t an empowering moment, it was just plain obnoxious. Another incident related to the Maxwell s was when a member posted that they were sitting in their car outside the Maxwell’s house. A few people, including me, commented it was inappropriate but there was a larger contingent who were cheering the person on & telling the rest of us to lighten up. The moment that really made me start reevaluating was the member who sent a wedding gift to Erin Bates back in November. The member tried to backtrack and claim he/she had not signed FreeJinger on the gift card but their first post about it did say they had mentioned the board’s name on the gift. It was disturbing to see people being so excited about it &, once again, act like dissenters were overreacting. There are plenty of other instances of members intruding on fundie’s lives outside the boards but these are the ones that have stuck with me.

The thing that has bothered me the most out of all these situations is that the board owner refuses to acknowledge how inappropriate these actions are & take steps to discourage people from acting like stalkers. In fact, he/she has participated in some of it. It’s crazy. I really do appreciate how Alice & the rest of the members on GOMI shut down anyone who tries to pull the same crap here.

Sorry for the long post. I’ve had some stuff to get off my chest. Now back to lurking!

Yeah, and the previous board owner was just as bad, before she absconded with a bunch of money from Free Jinger, that is. And she personally appointed the current owner, so that gives you an idea of just how up-and-up (not) the administration of that board is. There have been a few forums put up to expose and discuss all the shadiness that goes on at Free Jinger, but they all get taken down. Makes me wonder if their "lawyer" admin is sending threatening letters or something. Shady, shady, shady. others-221

The whole thing is kinda shady, IMO. They complained about Alice use of ads on GOMI in that thread where they all momentarily forgot both who they are and where they are, and all I could think to myself was, yeah, that opportunistic b***h. She should totally just raise funds from the readership without any transparency and then use the money to buy herself an iPad. And then lie about it. That's totes better.

Also, are they reading the same GOMI that I am? Because anytime I've ever seen anything even approaching personal information posted on the board, it's been redacted immediately, whereas FJ will have it made into a fun t shirt and mailed to the subject's home. I've never seen anyone encouraged to stalk/harass/go see/call/find anyone, in fact I've seen any mention of that behavior called out immediately.

That board has a whole lot of problems, and at some point it'll boil over. They attract and encourage people who are as militant, if not more so than the people that they snark on, and it'll end badly for them at some point, regardless of the number of posting attorneys. Curious has already been doxxed, as have other high post count members, and they still don't seem to understand that even if your TOU prohibits folks on your board from doxxing you, the internet at large really doesn't give a shit. It's one thing to snark, words are words, but when your actively crossing the line from snark to real life interaction intended to harm, people are going to out you, out at least try. Again, I'm not a fan of doxxing anyone, but I found it nearly impossible to feel bad for them when it happened.

July 9, 2014
11:10 am
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brave blogging, bullshit
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Meows: 425
Snarking Since:
August 9, 2013

lifetime moment of truth said

Patella Flex said

Arise Chicken said
I've been a long time lurker & sometimes poster at FJ for years but lately the board has stopped holding my interest. The lack of new topics and how obsessive the members can be has been off-putting to me. Don’t get me wrong, I am definitely guilty of being just as obsessive. I enjoy snark & discussions on how ridiculous bloggers can be (hence my lurking out here) but over the past few months I have been lightening up on my views/judgments.

Some of the creepy incidents at FJ in the past 2-3 years have helped with this reevaluation. The first one was the Maxwell conference incident mention by lifetime moment of truth. I remembered being shocked about how many people were praising the 3 members who confronted Steve Maxwell & humped their bus. It wasn’t an empowering moment, it was just plain obnoxious. Another incident related to the Maxwell s was when a member posted that they were sitting in their car outside the Maxwell’s house. A few people, including me, commented it was inappropriate but there was a larger contingent who were cheering the person on & telling the rest of us to lighten up. The moment that really made me start reevaluating was the member who sent a wedding gift to Erin Bates back in November. The member tried to backtrack and claim he/she had not signed FreeJinger on the gift card but their first post about it did say they had mentioned the board’s name on the gift. It was disturbing to see people being so excited about it &, once again, act like dissenters were overreacting. There are plenty of other instances of members intruding on fundie’s lives outside the boards but these are the ones that have stuck with me.

The thing that has bothered me the most out of all these situations is that the board owner refuses to acknowledge how inappropriate these actions are & take steps to discourage people from acting like stalkers. In fact, he/she has participated in some of it. It’s crazy. I really do appreciate how Alice & the rest of the members on GOMI shut down anyone who tries to pull the same crap here.

Sorry for the long post. I’ve had some stuff to get off my chest. Now back to lurking!

Yeah, and the previous board owner was just as bad, before she absconded with a bunch of money from Free Jinger, that is. And she personally appointed the current owner, so that gives you an idea of just how up-and-up (not) the administration of that board is. There have been a few forums put up to expose and discuss all the shadiness that goes on at Free Jinger, but they all get taken down. Makes me wonder if their "lawyer" admin is sending threatening letters or something. Shady, shady, shady. others-221

The whole thing is kinda shady, IMO. They complained about Alice use of ads on GOMI in that thread where they all momentarily forgot both who they are and where they are, and all I could think to myself was, yeah, that opportunistic b***h. She should totally just raise funds from the readership without any transparency and then use the money to buy herself an iPad. And then lie about it. That's totes better.

Also, are they reading the same GOMI that I am? Because anytime I've ever seen anything even approaching personal information posted on the board, it's been redacted immediately, whereas FJ will have it made into a fun t shirt and mailed to the subject's home. I've never seen anyone encouraged to stalk/harass/go see/call/find anyone, in fact I've seen any mention of that behavior called out immediately.

That board has a whole lot of problems, and at some point it'll boil over. They attract and encourage people who are as militant, if not more so than the people that they snark on, and it'll end badly for them at some point, regardless of the number of posting attorneys. Curious has already been doxxed, as have other high post count members, and they still don't seem to understand that even if your TOU prohibits folks on your board from doxxing you, the internet at large really doesn't give a shit. It's one thing to snark, words are words, but when your actively crossing the line from snark to real life interaction intended to harm, people are going to out you, out at least try. Again, I'm not a fan of doxxing anyone, but I found it nearly impossible to feel bad for them when it happened.

I love your user name, BTW. laugh

 

Yeah, I read where they were accusing GOMI of interfering in people's lives. I laughed out loud. Seems to be a typical ploy of misdirection; if they know they're doing something wrong they'll accuse others of it – louder. I had to take a lot of mental showers to get the stink of that place off once I left. I could tell you stories…

July 9, 2014
12:30 pm
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Detective Rosa Diaz
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Meows: 1136
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January 6, 2012

Any details on the story of the old owner and the $$? popcorn



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