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Seven Sisters (farm girls)
January 14, 2016
5:53 pm
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Get the Most Outta Ya Womb While Ya Can!
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Meows: 650
Snarking Since:
November 11, 2014

Spirits of elderflower – I hadn't noticed that!  I'd guess a lot were probably early miscarriages, and maybe a lot once she was getting older (and the odds go up)?  I've tried for two kids and ended up having two early miscarriages in the process, and I know three different friends who just had them within the last month.

I was happy to see that in the Christmas post it seems like they all have their own little interests and hobbies.  I think that's what makes these girls kind of interesting – they all seem so far out there conservative and conformist to each other, but then they go out and do things like fly planes and become EMTs.

Previously everythingistaken
January 15, 2016
12:21 pm
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SnarkaliciousPork
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Meows: 1389
Snarking Since:
July 1, 2015

Spirits of elderflower meowed
Holy moly, Bacon in Beans.  I totally missed the 9 kids, 14 in heaven thing on the blog.  The mother has lost 14 children?????   I can't even wrap my head around that.

That's so sad. I've had 3 and it's upsetting. I can't imagine going through that 14 times.

Yeah, I'm into fitness. Fit'n this in ma mouth!
January 15, 2016
5:48 pm
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Uvabird
Senior Hamcat
Meows: 594
Snarking Since:
January 25, 2013

I'm fascinated by the fact that there's such a stark contrast between the flying lessons/EMT training and those loud calico jumpers with the big frilly collars.   The sisters seem happy, close and supportive but I find myself muttering to the monitor that there is tasteful, modest clothing out there, no need to go out looking like one was wrapped in a Christmas tree skirt.  I want to give them all a 7 sisters clothing makeover.

January 16, 2016
5:51 pm
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sadiesue
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Meows: 314
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October 14, 2012

Spirits of elderflower meowed
Holy moly, Bacon in Beans.  I totally missed the 9 kids, 14 in heaven thing on the blog.  The mother has lost 14 children?????   I can't even wrap my head around that.

Shessh that's a lot of miscarriages. I know that 1/3 of pregnancies end in a miscarriage but goodness. Did she just assume every time she missed a period and then got her period the following month that was a miscarriage? 

January 16, 2016
6:19 pm
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Spirits of elderflower
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Meows: 915
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May 25, 2015

I've been contemplating how she could have 14 children in heaven and still have 9 surviving children.  I don't know if she'd had 14 miscarriages, stillbirths, or child deaths.  If all of them have been miscarriages, it is truly shocking that she's had 9 pregnancies.  I haven't seen the 14 children in heaven mention on their blog.  I saw it here so I don't know what the deal is.  Did she have a series of miscarriages and then seek treatment for some medical condition that stopped her from carrying to term and then a few more as she got older?  Did she assume if her period was late and then heavy that it must be an early term miscarriage?  Has she had tough labors at home with minimal medical assistance and had stillbirths or complications like the cord around the neck? Do they not vaccinate and have lost several children to illness?  I cannot fathom how she has dealt with 14 lost children– physically (especially if they were all miscarriages) and emotionally– and not reconsidered some of their beliefs and practices (maybe we should vaccinate if our kids keep dropping dead? Maybe I shouldn't try to get pregnant weeks after delivering a baby if I keep losing the pregnancy?)

 

Having had one confirmed miscarriage, I just cannot imagine going through that 13 more times.  Physically I almost died.  Emotionally I was a wreck.  And I really cannot imagine how chalking it up to G-d's will would be much solace. 

January 16, 2016
6:37 pm
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snarkylady
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March 20, 2013

I know many people who consider a late period a likely miscarriage and a lost child.  Which it could be, I guess.  So that's possible in the counts.  At least, that's what I hope it is and that she hasn't lost 14 children to illness or other complications.

January 17, 2016
5:46 am
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Ominous Cloud of Gluten
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January 22, 2015

I know numerous women who have had many miscarriages.  I believe there is one who had nine and she is not at the end of her fertility.  Also, fertility tends to end with a string of miscarriages.   And it is possible to become pregnant the very next cycle after a loss.

January 22, 2016
6:49 am
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CKREM
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Meows: 212
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March 4, 2015

Jessica passed her pilot's exam thingy yesterday. Will be interesting to see if a career follows or not. 

January 24, 2016
8:18 pm
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Uvabird
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Meows: 594
Snarking Since:
January 25, 2013

CKREM meowed
Jessica passed her pilot's exam thingy yesterday. Will be interesting to see if a career follows or not. 

I really hope so.  She clearly loves to fly.  They're more SOMI than GOMI for me- I love reading that they are out having adventures, living life.  I hope the other sister becomes an EMT.

January 28, 2016
6:51 am
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CKREM
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Meows: 212
Snarking Since:
March 4, 2015

Likewise, I find it hard to hate them too much because they seem sweet and kind of self aware enough. I think it's creepy that they share double beds and call their parents Mommy and Daddy, but basically they're okay. 

February 1, 2016
9:27 am
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B***h Brisket
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Meows: 1488
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August 24, 2015

secular soul meowed
I remember they responded to someone who asked why the boys are allowed to dress more normally. Their response was that the boys are little and they really haven't thought about it yet. They say that all the girls decided on their own to dress like that, and that it was time to start wearing the head covering when the girl was old enough to ask about it. They admitted that at first many of them just wanted to dress like their mother and older sisters, but eventually wanted to do it to please their parents. I find it odd that every single one of them agreed to dress in such a way that would make them stick out in public. It's also strange that they all have exactly the same fashion sense – all homemade jumpers and head coverings. Not skirts or hats or other modest wear.

 

Considering that the boys role model is their father who dresses in jeans and polo tops, for me it's obvious that they are just following his lead. Why do you need to think or question it if your parental role model is showing you how to dress? If he dressed like an Amish guy, these boys would too I'm sure. As long as he wears modern clothes, there is a high percentage they will continue to do so as well as they consider it normal despite their sisters and mother dressing out of the ark

February 10, 2016
4:29 pm
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HapE
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August 1, 2014

I have a mixed opinion on some things the Seven Sisters post about. For example, they say that they like dressing like that, so more power to them. But on the other hand, I could also see where having that many adult older girls probably has a way of enforcing a dress code on the younger ones, even if they wouldn't have chosen to wear those exact frilly jumpers. The other thing that I find a little iffy is that they describe their style as feminine. Which I find to a very narrow definition, and probably derived from very limited exposure to certain things. But they do sew other style dresses for dolls and for their Etsy shop and they post videos they've watched on YouTube and talk about watching somewhat recent movies and participated in 4-H and their local symphony, so I think that they're out in the world, it's just that some of the signals they're receiving aren't being interpreted properly.

I'm glad that the boys are wearing polo shirts. They used to wear fugly shirts sewn by their sisters that made me feel sorry for the little princes.

 

As far as the 14 siblings in heaven, the oldest goes into a little detail in an old blog post:

sevenfarmgirlsisters.com/seven-sisters-treasures-74

She says that there were 13 miscarriages and one stillborn. Two miscarriages were before she was born and the stillborn baby was a boy who would have been 21 in the post from four and a half years ago, which puts him in the middle of the seven girls.

February 11, 2016
3:09 pm
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Spirits of elderflower
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Meows: 915
Snarking Since:
May 25, 2015

Thanks, HapE.  I find the Treasures posts really hard to get through.  I have had a miscarriage (and another one is possible but was too early to confirm), and seriously, I can not imagine physically imagine going through that 13 times.  So horrible.  Seeing the cheering comments that they could be a family of 23 was somewhat disconcerting in the context of that much loss.

 

And I agree.  I wouldn't be surprised if the younger girls didn't feel pressure to fit in and be like their big sisters.  The style choice for the girls' look is so limited and very specific.  I'm not saying I think the older girls are pressuring their siblings, but the youngest girls are teens now, right?  Beyond the age where the kids get to pick?  I wonder if Phyllis Jean inspired them?

http://www.phyllisjean.net/long-jumper-dress.html



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