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Seven Sisters (farm girls)
February 12, 2016
1:11 pm
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HapE
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August 1, 2014

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Thanks, HapE.  I find the Treasures posts really hard to get through.  I have had a miscarriage (and another one is possible but was too early to confirm), and seriously, I can not imagine physically imagine going through that 13 times.  So horrible.  Seeing the cheering comments that they could be a family of 23 was somewhat disconcerting in the context of that much loss.

 

And I agree.  I wouldn't be surprised if the younger girls didn't feel pressure to fit in and be like their big sisters.  The style choice for the girls' look is so limited and very specific.  I'm not saying I think the older girls are pressuring their siblings, but the youngest girls are teens now, right?  Beyond the age where the kids get to pick?  I wonder if Phyllis Jean inspired them?

http://www.phyllisjean.net/long-jumper-dress.html

I felt like rolling my eyes at the family of 23 comments. Odds are she was pregnant again before some of those miscarriages would have resulted in a birth. It still puts having nine kids in a different perspective. Hers are spaced out over 20 years. Look at someone like Michelle Duggar who had 17 births (and two miscarriages that we know about, so 19 pregnancies). With the exception of Josh and Johannah she was always pregnant again before the previous baby turned one. What do you think that does to a person's hormones to be either pregnant or postpartum for 20 years? Good for Trisch for getting involved in T-Tapp and fitness. I sometimes find some of the things that they recommend to be suspect, but she's been successful and is putting herself out there for something outside of religion, which I can't really criticize her for.

 

Now the housewife sisters who are 10-12 years out of "homeschool" and sewing doll dresses on Etsy, making dinner for their siblings, decorating their frilly bedrooms, feeding pet goats and practicing their violin, I have some criticisms for them.

February 23, 2016
1:49 pm
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Spirits of elderflower
Senior Hamcat
Meows: 915
Snarking Since:
May 25, 2015

Yeah, the older farmgirls, who do the lion's share of the blog work, really puzzle me in some ways.  Most of the recipes they post at least look as nasty as crap, and for all of their outside interests that could be construed as career-oriented and adult, they seem oddly infantile in their language, dress, and the way they basically only do anything with the family– not anyone outside the family, except limited applications for lessons or training.  The way the one daughter seems to have fetishized Haiti and doing a mission there smacks of a condescending Imperial mindset. 

September 1, 2016
2:54 pm
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Spirits of elderflower
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May 25, 2015

I hadn't checked out the sisters in a while, but I was curious and popped over to scroll through.  They have a reader quiz.  Because you've always wanted to know which sister you're most like!!!!!

http://sevenfarmgirlsisters.com/which-seven-sister-are-you-most-like/

September 2, 2016
6:33 am
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CKREM
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Meows: 212
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March 4, 2015

I have them on FB and they just seem… unbusy? Like, I really wish a few of them could settle down with someone nice. I think the youngest sister just turned 18 so they're all of age now and I would just love it if some of them got out from under their family's thumb.

Whichever one it is (I knew them at one point but don't now) that does flying has been flying a lot and in the photos it almost looks like she isn't wearingthe doily on her head anymore, but I think it's just the angle of the photos. Whichever one is doing medical training was learning to do an IV  line. 

September 2, 2016
1:05 pm
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Suzy Bishop-Shakusky
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Meows: 1885
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June 15, 2015

CKREM meowed

I have them on FB and they just seem… unbusy? Like, I really wish a few of them could settle down with someone nice. I think the youngest sister just turned 18 so they're all of age now and I would just love it if some of them got out from under their family's thumb.

Whichever one it is (I knew them at one point but don't now) that does flying has been flying a lot and in the photos it almost looks like she isn't wearingthe doily on her head anymore, but I think it's just the angle of the photos. Whichever one is doing medical training was learning to do an IV  line. 

I had to stop reading the blog after the Women in Aviation convention.
She truly believes that the Lord is going to get her around needing professional flight schooling/college and right into working for an airline as a pilot.
And of course they will let her wear a long skirtrolleyes

It's great that she is learning such a skill but she is not grounded in reality.
And it is depressing to see such potential wasted because her parents won't let her go to a real flight school and college.

If anyone needs to see a case of how fundamentalism crushes women…here it is.

September 2, 2016
3:42 pm
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Spirits of elderflower
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May 25, 2015

I think I find it even sadder that they will never think about fundamentalism as crushing them.  As long as they still have enough good things happening, they'll just keep thinking that it isn't God's time yet. Or God saying they aren't ready. Or he's holding something even better in reserve for them.  The older girls are all saying that God hasn't called them to go to college yet, that God hasn't sent someone yet, etc.  And they (especially Jessica, Cassia, and Anna) write in such a self-important, self-centered way that they come across more as narcissists than humble, modest believers.  

I found the whole Mommy Daddy schtick to be irritating beyond words, but what really made me nope out of there was the way the one sister seemed to romanticize and fetishize her desire to do a  mission to Haiti.  It was beyond a deep spiritual calling.  It really seemed to be veering into objectifying, creepy beyond poverty tourism language and into getting off on the conditions in Haiti.

 

But I am glad the father is recovering.

September 2, 2016
4:18 pm
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Suzy Bishop-Shakusky
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June 15, 2015

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I think I find it even sadder that they will never think about fundamentalism as crushing them.  As long as they still have enough good things happening, they'll just keep thinking that it isn't God's time yet. Or God saying they aren't ready. Or he's holding something even better in reserve for them.  The older girls are all saying that God hasn't called them to go to college yet, that God hasn't sent someone yet, etc.  And they (especially Jessica, Cassia, and Anna) write in such a self-important, self-centered way that they come across more as narcissists than humble, modest believers.  

I found the whole Mommy Daddy schtick to be irritating beyond words, but what really made me nope out of there was the way the one sister seemed to romanticize and fetishize her desire to do a  mission to Haiti.  It was beyond a deep spiritual calling.  It really seemed to be veering into objectifying, creepy beyond poverty tourism language and into getting off on the conditions in Haiti.

 

But I am glad the father is recovering.

That's is also what turned me off, her absolute smugness at the aviation conference.
That just because the Lord got her there and let her win that watch, her prayers (not hard work) would place her with women who have spent years of their lives working towards a very hard goal.
She should have spent real time talking to those women, not wasting their valuable time asking if such and such airline allowed skirtsdrool
They DON'T, check out the women pilots who fly for middle eastern airlines. Their heads might be covered but they are in pants because a long skirt is a safety issue.
The place my husband flys with won't even allow women passengers in maxi dresses/long skirts because it could hinder evacuation of the aircraft in an emergency.
And that's just in a dinky old Cessna 172!
She should have talked to those women about how hard they have had to bust their asses to get in the cockpit.

This is 2016 and the only way she is getting near a plane without flight school or college is the military.
But I guess the Lord left that little detail out of their conversation.

Spirits of elderflower meowed

but what really made me nope out of there was the way the one sister seemed to romanticize and fetishize her desire to do a  mission to Haiti.  It was beyond a deep spiritual calling.  It really seemed to be veering into objectifying, creepy beyond poverty tourism language and into getting off on the conditions in Haiti.

 

It really is disgusting.
They can't do any real work because most of the time they don't even speak the language of the country they are in.
Many of these countries are already religious.
And they are very dishonest, they go into villages promising help and medical care.
But when women are brave enough to ask for protection from STDs (condoms) and birth control to protect themselves from another perilous pregnancy, they are given f'n gospel tracts!

It is not helping people.
It's white savior, poverty tourism.

September 3, 2016
10:23 am
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CKREM
Expert Hamcat
Meows: 212
Snarking Since:
March 4, 2015

Agreed with the poverty tourism thing. Whichever one it was had all those photos of her with all the adorable little black babies. Give me a break.

I find it gross that they still call their parents Mommy and Daddy, but even grosser that they still share beds. 

September 3, 2016
11:17 am
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Spirits of elderflower
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Meows: 915
Snarking Since:
May 25, 2015

They share beds?  Is that because of lack of space or room(s)? That is odd…

How old are they at this point?  The oldest girl, Jessica, looks like she's almost 40.

September 3, 2016
8:00 pm
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Uvabird
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Meows: 594
Snarking Since:
January 25, 2013

I want to give them all makeovers so badly, within the perimeters of conservative.  What they wear right now is childlike (flowered jumpers) and it must mess with one's mindset to be dressed like that.   I find myself thinking, Could she swap that doily out for a hat or scarf?  

I'm sad that they aren't reaching their full potential as women.   It's more than just the outfits.

September 3, 2016
8:16 pm
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Bacon in Beans at Restaurants
Feline Porklord
Meows: 2245
Snarking Since:
November 10, 2013

I just want to know why they aren't being actively encouraged to go out and find husbands.  Why Daddy isn't fulfilling his fundie imperative by getting them married off at a nice young age so they can have moar bebbehs for Jeebus?

Apparently Mommy is too busy t-tapping herself around the county to care, and Daddy just really enjoys all the free, uncomplaining labor. And the brothers are probably delighted at their extended childhood because their 7 sisters are there to do every damn chore imaginable.

I want one of them to escape.  Just one–so the rest of them are exposed to someone who has happily left the family and is enjoying her own life and freedom…

September 4, 2016
12:42 pm
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Spirits of elderflower
Senior Hamcat
Meows: 915
Snarking Since:
May 25, 2015

I'm not gonna snark too much on the farmwork issue.  It sounds like the whole family contributes to work on the farm, and it sounds pretty similar to how work load is shared in any number of non-fundie farm families I've known.

I'm not bothered by the father not trying to drum up husbands for the older girls either.  In fact, I find it creepy that Jim Boob Duggar is as invested in his daughters' dating/love lives as he is.  

 

I think a lot of these hyper fundagelical homeschooling families show a level of emotional incest that is just creepy freaky and works to keep the kids at home because on some level they fear people outside the family and they've stagmatized non-familial relationships because someone may give away "pieces of their heart" even to friends so they won't be whole when they meet "the one."  the farm girls seem to fall into that category, especially with the juvenile, infantile way they have of expressing themselves and they way the seem to describe their intra-family relationships and romanticize them (not in the romantic love sense but more in the rosy nostalgic idealizing sense of romanticism).

September 4, 2016
12:44 pm
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CKREM
Expert Hamcat
Meows: 212
Snarking Since:
March 4, 2015

Spirits of elderflower meowed
They share beds?  Is that because of lack of space or room(s)? That is odd…

How old are they at this point?  The oldest girl, Jessica, looks like she's almost 40.

 

Yeah, if you look at their room makover posts, there's two lots who are sharing a double bed each – I presume the eldest four? There isn't lack of room, imo – you could fit small twin beds or bunk beds in those rooms. I'm not sure about the next three…. Although I have this terrible feeling that they share a king size bed (I'm sure I've seen one with three pillows on it). I wonder if the boys are allowed a bed each. 

ITA with what's above – I wonder why they aren't married unless Daddy just can't find anybody he feels is suitable. Jessica is around 31/32, I think. 



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