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Escape From Obesity
April 8, 2013
7:44 pm
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ShuShu
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February 14, 2013

MostlyBode said 

Aren't you the person who had a relationship with Lyn outside of her blog? It sounds like you are confirming that Lyn's daughter is made up.

Um no and no. I don't know how you got that. All I am saying is that when it comes to weight loss blogs I think a weight loss blogger owes a duty to the reader to tell the truth as to things weight loss — what they eat, how much they exercise, but as to all the "incidentials" that make up the bloggers day… I don't see that the blogger has any duty to be truthful about every single aspect.  I don't see why people get so excited about the idea that the daughter is made up. That wouldn't shock me. Haven't you guys seen the movie/ tv show "Catfish" if not, you must.

April 8, 2013
9:13 pm
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TNTriathlete
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November 17, 2012

ShuShu said

MostlyBode said 

Aren't you the person who had a relationship with Lyn outside of her blog? It sounds like you are confirming that Lyn's daughter is made up.

Um no and no. I don't know how you got that. All I am saying is that when it comes to weight loss blogs I think a weight loss blogger owes a duty to the reader to tell the truth as to things weight loss — what they eat, how much they exercise, but as to all the "incidentials" that make up the bloggers day… I don't see that the blogger has any duty to be truthful about every single aspect.  I don't see why people get so excited about the idea that the daughter is made up. That wouldn't shock me. Haven't you guys seen the movie/ tv show "Catfish" if not, you must.

I was sure that was you. Unfortunately the old thread isn't accessible at the moment. You talked about how you and Lyn were friends in the early days of her blog and how you used to make fun of the people who wouldn't do the basic things to lose weight and who fibbed about their intake, etc. Then you said things changed with her, and now she does all the things you guys used to make fun of. And she wouldn't listen to you or take your advice about what worked for you. That's what led you to GOMI and the Escape From Obesity thread.

April 8, 2013
9:38 pm
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OatyO
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MostlyBode said

ShuShu said

MostlyBode said 

Aren't you the person who had a relationship with Lyn outside of her blog? It sounds like you are confirming that Lyn's daughter is made up.

Um no and no. I don't know how you got that. All I am saying is that when it comes to weight loss blogs I think a weight loss blogger owes a duty to the reader to tell the truth as to things weight loss — what they eat, how much they exercise, but as to all the "incidentials" that make up the bloggers day… I don't see that the blogger has any duty to be truthful about every single aspect.  I don't see why people get so excited about the idea that the daughter is made up. That wouldn't shock me. Haven't you guys seen the movie/ tv show "Catfish" if not, you must.

I was sure that was you. Unfortunately the old thread isn't accessible at the moment. You talked about how you and Lyn were friends in the early days of her blog and how you used to make fun of the people who wouldn't do the basic things to lose weight and who fibbed about their intake, etc. Then you said things changed with her, and now she does all the things you guys used to make fun of. And she wouldn't listen to you or take your advice about what worked for you. That's what led you to GOMI and the Escape From Obesity thread.

Wasn't that Norma…?

April 8, 2013
10:46 pm
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the aluminum monster
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Random Person said
Ok, WTF on the post about one bite CAN kill you. She conflates a very serious food allergy with eating a piece of a brownie if you are "on-plan." Huh?

First of all, if you know you have a seafood allergy and if your doctor told you not to eat Chinese food because there is a lot of cross-contamination, why would would you eat Chinese food? That's just dumb. Second, a seafood allergy is not the same thing as eating one bite of a brownie. One bite of a brownie will not kill you. It might set off a binge, I dunno, but kill? No. 

I don't know why she takes something that is so easy at the core (weight loss) and makes it so complicated. Now I'm not saying that losing weight is easy, it is not, but the core principles are very easy….eat less, move more. If you're honest with yourself, you will know why you are the weight you are, and you will know what you need to do to change that. No big secrets there.

I do notice that she is writing more of her stats about what she ate…so I guess we can assume that when she doesn't do that, she is totally off-plan.

And just because I have to use this new emoticon…

trainwreck

"We already knew I am severely allergic to shellfish."

Who knew oysters were shellfish?

April 8, 2013
11:01 pm
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Eraycan

Ok, one thing about the calorie level. There ARE valid 800 calorie diets that people can go on for weight loss, especially if they're extremely overweight and need to lose weight fast for medical reasons (needing surgery, etc.). There are also even lower calorie versions that are called Protein Sparing Modified Fasts (PSMF) that are safe if you do them properly, under supervision, and take the appropriate supplements (fats, etc.) But …. BUT!!! They're not meant to be on for 2+ years. 

Aside from that, "starvation mode" is a myth. If starvation mode existed, people wouldn't die of starvation. They'd just stop losing weight. 

But no, there is no way that Lyn is consistently eating 800 or even 1200 calories. She's either lying to herself or lying to her readers. Even if she has depressed her metabolism some by years of yo-yo dieting, she can't possibly have depressed it to the point that she's at half or less of her normal metabolism. That's just not scientifically possible. 

April 9, 2013
7:23 am
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Waterfall

PhotoGirl said
Ok, one thing about the calorie level. There ARE valid 800 calorie diets that people can go on for weight loss, especially if they're extremely overweight and need to lose weight fast for medical reasons (needing surgery, etc.). There are also even lower calorie versions that are called Protein Sparing Modified Fasts (PSMF) that are safe if you do them properly, under supervision, and take the appropriate supplements (fats, etc.) But …. BUT!!! They're not meant to be on for 2+ years. 

Aside from that, "starvation mode" is a myth. If starvation mode existed, people wouldn't die of starvation. They'd just stop losing weight. 

But no, there is no way that Lyn is consistently eating 800 or even 1200 calories. She's either lying to herself or lying to her readers. Even if she has depressed her metabolism some by years of yo-yo dieting, she can't possibly have depressed it to the point that she's at half or less of her normal metabolism. That's just not scientifically possible. 

I don't believe in starvation mode either. 

I think Lyn is doing constant "do-overs" and she thinks she can magically make past calories disappear by doing this. Like the people who eat a lot all weekend and then start a diet on Monday and then complain by Friday that they haven't lost anything yet.

April 9, 2013
10:08 am
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TNTriathlete
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OatyO said

MostlyBode said

ShuShu said

MostlyBode said 

Aren't you the person who had a relationship with Lyn outside of her blog? It sounds like you are confirming that Lyn's daughter is made up.

Um no and no. I don't know how you got that. All I am saying is that when it comes to weight loss blogs I think a weight loss blogger owes a duty to the reader to tell the truth as to things weight loss — what they eat, how much they exercise, but as to all the "incidentials" that make up the bloggers day… I don't see that the blogger has any duty to be truthful about every single aspect.  I don't see why people get so excited about the idea that the daughter is made up. That wouldn't shock me. Haven't you guys seen the movie/ tv show "Catfish" if not, you must.

I was sure that was you. Unfortunately the old thread isn't accessible at the moment. You talked about how you and Lyn were friends in the early days of her blog and how you used to make fun of the people who wouldn't do the basic things to lose weight and who fibbed about their intake, etc. Then you said things changed with her, and now she does all the things you guys used to make fun of. And she wouldn't listen to you or take your advice about what worked for you. That's what led you to GOMI and the Escape From Obesity thread.

Wasn't that Norma…?

No, Norma posted about different stuff and she heard everything second hand. She did not have direct contact with Lyn,

April 13, 2013
6:06 pm
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FlounceCat

most depressing thing I've read in a while…

I have a secret file on my computer that no one sees. I hide it with an obscure name, and every so often I get it out and read it or edit it. Well, maybe it's not such a big deal to you, but it kind of is to me. It's a list. A list of foods I want to eat… "someday."

It started a long time ago. One day I was craving a couple of very specific and very off-plan food items. I was *really* battling it in my head. I was going back and forth:

I *have* to try that new food! I can't stand not ever having it!
No, you don't need it. So what if you never have it?
But I HAVE TO. I want it! It looks so good!
etc…

When does she start seeing that therapist?

April 13, 2013
6:13 pm
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Alice
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FlounceCat said
most depressing thing I've read in a while…

I have a secret file on my computer that no one sees. I hide it with an obscure name, and every so often I get it out and read it or edit it. Well, maybe it's not such a big deal to you, but it kind of is to me. It's a list. A list of foods I want to eat… "someday."

It started a long time ago. One day I was craving a couple of very specific and very off-plan food items. I was *really* battling it in my head. I was going back and forth:

I *have* to try that new food! I can't stand not ever having it!
No, you don't need it. So what if you never have it?
But I HAVE TO. I want it! It looks so good!
etc…

When does she start seeing that therapist?

uh

~*~ garbage person ~*~
April 13, 2013
7:43 pm
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EOWWC
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Meows: 1146
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June 2, 2012

krafte2 said
I hadn't read this blog until now…I just spend a good amount of time reading through the archives. Wow. This blog is all sorts of messed up. I'm sure I'm repeating what's already been discussed to death in the other thread, but I'm shocked by how few calories she eats. NO ONE should be eating 800-1000 calories a day. Not only is she starving herself, but pre-packaged diet foods are NOT healthy, and she seems to think she eats a healthy, whole-foods diet.

There was one post where she talked about telling her doctor about Medifast, and the doctor said to keep doing it if she was losing weight. I absolutely can't believe that a doctor would encourage that behavior. Until she's truly eating a whole-foods, healthy diet with enough calories, she's going to keep weight cycling.

Shockingly (to me anyway) many doctors do seem to encourage that behaviour. I've lost count of the people I've heard of who have been instructed to go on VLCD's (Very Low Calorie Diets) usually in the form of shakes. First do no harm?? (Sorry, but I wrote that as "First do no ham" and it took all my self control not to leave it that way)finger 

April 13, 2013
7:51 pm
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EOWWC
Feline Porklord
Meows: 1146
Snarking Since:
June 2, 2012

FlounceCat said
most depressing thing I've read in a while…

I have a secret file on my computer that no one sees. I hide it with an obscure name, and every so often I get it out and read it or edit it. Well, maybe it's not such a big deal to you, but it kind of is to me. It's a list. A list of foods I want to eat… "someday."

It started a long time ago. One day I was craving a couple of very specific and very off-plan food items. I was *really* battling it in my head. I was going back and forth:

I *have* to try that new food! I can't stand not ever having it!
No, you don't need it. So what if you never have it?
But I HAVE TO. I want it! It looks so good!
etc…

When does she start seeing that therapist?

That's a very eating disordered state of mind thing to do, have lists of 'someday' foods. 

Maybe sadder, I would bet it's likely she HAS tried most things on her food lists, unless they are rare or obscure food items, she's probably binged on them at some point. The difference between bingeing on a food, and actually allowing yourself to eat a food are like night and day – I can relate to feeling she has never eaten certain things despite bingeing on them. 

She DOES need therapy. For one thing, the level of self-denial and shame around food is notable, and probably she would also benefit from something like CBT to help her learn new ways of thinking that aren't so faulty, and to develop ways of coping that don't revolve around food or obsessing about food. 

April 14, 2013
2:30 pm
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ohplease
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November 3, 2011

I agree with therapy–she seems so addicted to food and being an emotional eater.  Maybe food and eating is her main source of joy/replenishment?   She gives me the sads when she lusts after certain foods (sits in bakery parking lot stalking cupcakes, etc.) 

And with therapy maybe then her posts will be more interesting.  I mean, just join a calorie counting site if you want to keep a journal of how many calories you ate.  Is it useful to any reader?  I mean, really?  It is not like her plan is working.  And like others have said, not so sure her calorie counting is accurate anyway. 

April 14, 2013
8:27 pm
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Waterfall

She's not eating a 1,000 calories a day. She wouldn't weigh 210 for long if she was.

Just my guess.



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