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July 25, 2014
4:47 am
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NyanKitty
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I've been reading articles and comments about “how I afford to travel”. What are your opnions on travel bloggers and the articles I linked? 

 

Here are the articles:

http://thoughtcatalog.com/brian-m-williams/2014/02/youre-right-you-cant-afford-to-travel/#

http://snarkynomad.com/the-problem-with-how-i-afford-to-travel-posts/

 

TC Comment:

Mitchell Bartlett

I can save up all the money I want, but not everyone has the freedom to just take a few weeks/months off work? If I want to travel for longer than a weekend, then I'm going to lose my job, and that doesn't seem like a good thing to do when I really, really need to be able to pay rent & bills. It's not about being unwilling to save the money, it's about trying to keep my job so I don't come back from a backpacking trip and find myself homeless and jobless. But thank you for the passive aggressive and demeaning article, TC.

 

SN Comments:

Colleen Brynn

Haha I really like this. I agree… there aren’t enough honest budget posts out there. I think Audrey (That Backpacker) did a great one. It bothers me most when bloggers who write these posts are vague and make themselves sounds like miracle money savers and don’t provide the whole picture. At the end of the day, some people are just more fortunate than others…

 

Charu

The reason why you have a lot of these “how to save money” posts is because it’s really good for SEO. Very few of them offer truly novel advice. Many of the people who do travel long term either do travel hacking, or get sponsored trips/sponsorships for the long haul.

July 26, 2014
2:37 am
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grouchy
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Thank you for starting a travel blogger thread!
I think it's hard to win with a budget post. There will always be people who read it and say well that's fine for you but I can't do that because x. I do like snarky nomad, he's a SOMI.

My big travel blogger money gripe is how much free stuff goes not properly acknowldged. And I just don't trust any reviews where the blogger got a free hotel stay or entry or anything! I want to know if you were happy with what you paid for not what you were given.

I follow quite a lot of family travel blogs and they are full of rich snark content. Eg. Worldtravelfamily. She calls her family 'extreme budget travellers' but they are not really.

Another one is Travel With Bender who just seem a bit dim. They posted a photo of an elephant performing in a circus on IG recently and asked if it was cruel. All comments said, um YES! To which they responded: "There were over a dozen acts, this was only one of them. Most of the ticket income goes towards the humans in the circus. Just because you drive on the road where fatalities happen, you are supporting that. Or next time you have a beer you're supporting drink driving. Or maybe taxes are going to the illegal and immoral wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Any viewpoint can be justified. If you think this is wrong, the best thing you can do is write a letter or email to this circus and tell them what you think."

Really??! For starters they asked for people's opinions and secondly that logic is severly flawed.

Oh man, I could go on and on about travel bloggers.

July 26, 2014
9:35 am
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she who must be obeyed
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This is one of my travel blogger pet peeves.  A lot of those bloggers are traveling long term and either not working or doing short volunteer/job stints. Plus possibly getting sponsored for trips.  Their tips just aren't applicable for people who are just looking for a vacation and don't want to, say, sell all their crap so they can have $20,000 to jet around on.  When you're an American with two weeks of vacation, sometimes it's just easier to stay in the US rather than spend $1000+ for something short.    

 

And generally, I hate how their travel/packing tips are usually just common sense fluff.  And the attitude of "this is what I did in this city so you should too."  But that could also be due to the SEO titles/clickbait trends.

July 26, 2014
5:01 pm
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NyanKitty
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Thank you for the response! I've been waiting for a while.

Grouchy, I like how Snarky Nomad honest in this post. I'll read more of him!

 

These are the travel blogs I usually read: Benny Lewis, Young Adventuress, Conni Biesalski, and NomadicMatt. What do you think of them?

July 26, 2014
5:06 pm
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NyanKitty
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NyanKitty said
 

These are the travel blogs I usually read: Benny Lewis, Young Adventuress, Conni Biesalski, and NomadicMatt. What do you think of them?

I forgot to add, So Many Places.

July 27, 2014
11:09 am
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sparkleface
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December 25, 2012

What really bothers me about these "If I can do it, so can you!!!!11!!!" type of posts (and the accompanying "omg so brave hashtaginspiring" responses) is that their authors often seem to be totally blind to their own privilege.

 

I used to read a lot of travel blogs and from what I can see the majority of the popular travel bloggers are white, able-bodied, university educated, and have at some point been in a stable enough employment/financial situation to be able to save a chunk of cash.  A lot of them also talk about moving back in with their parents before and/or after a big trip, which is great if you happen to have an affluent, stable and supportive family situation to fall back on.

 

Now I am all of the things I described above, and I have twice left well-paying jobs to go travelling.  The difference is I don't think I'm special or inspirational for it, I think that I am incredibly privileged.  I am able to travel because my education has afforded me good employment opportunities which in turn allows me to save up the cash I need.  I also have a family who are willing to let my broke backpaker a** crash indefinitely on their couches each time I bounce back home.  If I was to start a blog to tell others how they can live just like me if only they prioritise travel and want it enough then I would be deliberately ignoring my own privilege.  It would also probably be quite offensive and insensitive some of my good friends who would love to travel like I do but can't for reasons such as disability, having been unable to finish their education and thus having less earning potential and re-employment opportunities, difficult family relationships which mean less of a support network for taking these kind of risks, and having dependent family members to support.

 

In short, saving money by sponging off your affluent parents well into adulthood does not equal brave, it equals being born into privilege.  Chucking in your job (with a college degree to fall back on) to spend 6 months vomiting in hostel bars around Europe does not equal inspiring, it equals what every other over-educated and under-appreciative white kid your age is probably doing.

July 27, 2014
2:05 pm
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Pool Party (The Pool Part of the Party)
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sparkleface said
What really bothers me about these "If I can do it, so can you!!!!11!!!" type of posts (and the accompanying "omg so brave hashtaginspiring" responses) is that their authors often seem to be totally blind to their own privilege.

 

I used to read a lot of travel blogs and from what I can see the majority of the popular travel bloggers are white, able-bodied, university educated, and have at some point been in a stable enough employment/financial situation to be able to save a chunk of cash.  A lot of them also talk about moving back in with their parents before and/or after a big trip, which is great if you happen to have an affluent, stable and supportive family situation to fall back on.

 

Now I am all of the things I described above, and I have twice left well-paying jobs to go travelling.  The difference is I don't think I'm special or inspirational for it, I think that I am incredibly privileged.  I am able to travel because my education has afforded me good employment opportunities which in turn allows me to save up the cash I need.  I also have a family who are willing to let my broke backpaker a** crash indefinitely on their couches each time I bounce back home.  If I was to start a blog to tell others how they can live just like me if only they prioritise travel and want it enough then I would be deliberately ignoring my own privilege.  It would also probably be quite offensive and insensitive some of my good friends who would love to travel like I do but can't for reasons such as disability, having been unable to finish their education and thus having less earning potential and re-employment opportunities, difficult family relationships which mean less of a support network for taking these kind of risks, and having dependent family members to support.

 

In short, saving money by sponging off your affluent parents well into adulthood does not equal brave, it equals being born into privilege.  Chucking in your job (with a college degree to fall back on) to spend 6 months vomiting in hostel bars around Europe does not equal inspiring, it equals what every other over-educated and under-appreciative white kid your age is probably doing.

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July 27, 2014
6:28 pm
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NyanKitty
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July 7, 2014

sparkleface said
What really bothers me about these "If I can do it, so can you!!!!11!!!" type of posts (and the accompanying "omg so brave hashtaginspiring" responses) is that their authors often seem to be totally blind to their own privilege.

 

I used to read a lot of travel blogs and from what I can see the majority of the popular travel bloggers are white, able-bodied, university educated, and have at some point been in a stable enough employment/financial situation to be able to save a chunk of cash.  A lot of them also talk about moving back in with their parents before and/or after a big trip, which is great if you happen to have an affluent, stable and supportive family situation to fall back on.

 

After posting this thread, I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this.

July 27, 2014
8:49 pm
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grouchy
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January 2, 2013

NyanKitty, of the travel blogs you listed the only one I read (sometimes) is So Many Places. I like her and at least you know how they are paying for things with their traveling backpacker magazine job.

The 'I'm so inspirational' attitude is annoying and so many travel bloggers do it. You know, the blogs I enjoy the most are just simple accounts of people's trips in a chronological order! Not somewhere they visited years ago and are blogging about now to get SEO hits. Not somewhere they were paid to go to. Just a story about a trip. Where they went, how they got there, how much it cost. If it's interesting writing even better! Escape Artistes is quite good and is written in a narrative story style but she's not really blogging much seeing as they've stopped traveling for now.

I do find accounts of family travel inspiring because so many people think it can't be done with young kids. But lots of people DO do it so it's not really unique. World Travel Family started their blog because she thought they would be the only people doing it with kids! But no, there are heaps.

Y Travel Blog is the worst with the inspirational drivel though, with a touch of woo woo too. Yes, you can travel with no money! Just go and open your heart and the money will find you!

July 28, 2014
7:06 am
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AreYouSerious
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sparkleface said
What really bothers me about these "If I can do it, so can you!!!!11!!!" type of posts (and the accompanying "omg so brave hashtaginspiring" responses) is that their authors often seem to be totally blind to their own privilege.

 

I used to read a lot of travel blogs and from what I can see the majority of the popular travel bloggers are white, able-bodied, university educated, and have at some point been in a stable enough employment/financial situation to be able to save a chunk of cash.  A lot of them also talk about moving back in with their parents before and/or after a big trip, which is great if you happen to have an affluent, stable and supportive family situation to fall back on.

 

Now I am all of the things I described above, and I have twice left well-paying jobs to go travelling.  The difference is I don't think I'm special or inspirational for it, I think that I am incredibly privileged.  I am able to travel because my education has afforded me good employment opportunities which in turn allows me to save up the cash I need.  I also have a family who are willing to let my broke backpaker a** crash indefinitely on their couches each time I bounce back home.  If I was to start a blog to tell others how they can live just like me if only they prioritise travel and want it enough then I would be deliberately ignoring my own privilege.  It would also probably be quite offensive and insensitive some of my good friends who would love to travel like I do but can't for reasons such as disability, having been unable to finish their education and thus having less earning potential and re-employment opportunities, difficult family relationships which mean less of a support network for taking these kind of risks, and having dependent family members to support.

 

In short, saving money by sponging off your affluent parents well into adulthood does not equal brave, it equals being born into privilege.  Chucking in your job (with a college degree to fall back on) to spend 6 months vomiting in hostel bars around Europe does not equal inspiring, it equals what every other over-educated and under-appreciative white kid your age is probably doing.

What also bothers me about that is they think that everyone is so jealous that they need to tell us no you can do it too!!!! I have traveled a fair amount because I was also able to end up back at my families and pick up a random job, now though I am older and married so no matter how great traveling is I much prefer a place of our own, meals out, and new clothes over a hostel and walking two miles to town.

July 28, 2014
7:04 pm
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Lolzapalooza
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January 16, 2013

OK not many people raise my ire but Ashley Abroad. OH MY GOD. The epitome of "oh woe is me I am so privileged and sad, I can't travel the world anymore because I am so poor but I upgraded my phone just so I wouldn't have to take my point and shoot AND DSLR on my round the world trip to India to do my yogi master course… The hardest thing I ever did was go to Bali by myself where I got seriously depressed so I booked into a luxury hotel even though I am so poor…" 

Jesus f**k, the chick is SO ANNOYING. She has been to all these poverty stricken places where people actually suffer below the poverty line, living off less than a dollar a day, and all she can bang on about is how great it is to sit beside the ganges and drink her papaya juice or whatever the f**k it is. 

I was so pissed off when she did the 'highlights' of her Malaysia trip – "Cameron highlands. Don't do it. Such a waste of time to take a photo of tea plantations". And all these people in her comments agreed with her. Obvs because tea growing in Malaysia doesn't provide any bucket bomb/extreme sport/pseudo super spirit-u-aaaal diversions for the ADHD flashpacker generation, she didn't rate it. Yet I found it the most interesting part of her trip because the tea growing industry in rural malaysia probably provides a meagre but very important income for extended families in these remote regions. But hey! It's not INTERESTING enough for the humble westerner, so yep just slag it off to the world.

Then her post about whether skiing in Switzerland is good value really brought a tear to my eye because it was so heart wrenching. It should have been titled "When $100 a day isn't enough". F**k of COURSE skiing in Switzerland is expensive, anyone who does a bit of research would know this. Why go there and then b***h about it later? Why just NOT GO in the first place?!

THen in the same post… How DARE a family stay in a hostel alongside the Beautiful Young Poor Backpack Toting Masses of Global Nomadicism? I'm so sad that she didn't get to hang out with you twenty somethings because GOD FORBID a girl in her mid-20s can't talk to someone who has children and is older than 30. Something about screaming kids in hostels rah rah rah. Honey, sometimes, just sometimes, young families have less disposable income than young singles with no kids. But by all means, hostels are your territory to tell the families to f**k off. 

Travel is wasted on idiots like this girl. She is obviously not interested in learning a thing about the cultures she's observed, or contributing anything back. I hope to god she decides to stay in Michigan. 

I just can't understand why blogs like these have so many readers. Talk about perpetuation the nauseating cycle of ignorance. 

Get the f**k off my internets Ashley.

July 28, 2014
9:34 pm
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NyanKitty
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Lolzapalooza said
 

Travel is wasted on idiots like this girl. She is obviously not interested in learning a thing about the cultures she's observed, or contributing anything back. I hope to god she decides to stay in Michigan. 

I just can't understand why blogs like these have so many readers. Talk about perpetuation the nauseating cycle of ignorance. 

Get the f**k off my internets Ashley.

 

Maybe it's because it has something to do with her looks?

July 29, 2014
12:20 am
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Lolzapalooza
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NyanKitty said 

 

Maybe it's because it has something to do with her looks?

Maybe but it seems that most of her readers are also women? Who aren't only young? Is it an aspirational thing, similar to The Londoner syndrome?



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