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True Crime Podcasts
January 5, 2016
3:11 pm
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jmart
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I will second the person who said the boy crying on the 911 call was awful. I literally started crying when listening to it. I dunno – it just brings certain things to a horrifying reality that you're forced to confront. People are awful. But people are also failed (the Andrea Yates case made me absolutely infuriated. It was VERY clear she needed help and was let down by her husband and family. That was so preventable). Thought a lot of his techniques come off as very manipulative to me, I also get the feeling that he DOES have feelings about these cases. They affect him. I could be wrong.

 

The abortion episode also didn't sit well with me, because obviously. But it was a real horror that did occur that I think highlights more about racism and classicism than it did coming off as "pro-life." But I also know a large majority of people will listen to it and be like "abortion eez evull!" So overall I don't think it was a good idea to broadcast. In a perfect world people would be able to view that as not representing all clinics, but we sure as shit do not live in a perfect world. …

 

This is the main thing that bothers me about S&S. Sometimes his little one line asides about certain audio clips just bug the hell out of me. He'll stop the audio in the middle just to say something like, "Do you hear how little remorse he has?" or "Listen to how smug he sounds." Like, it's a podcast. All we are doing is listening. The narrator just seems so… I don't know. Unlikable. I feel like it was this same smug and unlikable attitude that led him to introduce the abortion case with that monologue about how he wasn't making a political statement. I think that whole introduction did the opposite of what he was trying to do and made it worse, which was annoying. I am a bleeding heart liberal, but I don't think I would have thought twice about the abortion episode EXCEPT for that introduction he did. I think that would be the case for most people, especially since he did a pretty good job of framing it as a class/poverty issue.

I, too, was disappointed by the season premiere. I just don't understand why he chose this case. Or why he chose to include that graphic bit about a separate case at the end. Granted, I haven't heard or read anything about this case, so maybe it will be more interesting in the second episode, but so far I am underwhelmed. There doesn't seem to be anything interesting about it so far, other than the facebook stuff, which was glossed over.

I just downloaded Generation Why and Missing Maura Murray podcasts! Thanks for the recommendations!

January 5, 2016
3:13 pm
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DenimChicken
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Missing Maura Murray really drew me in for a few episodes because the case is so confounding, but then it gets WEIRD. If you're interested in the strange side of the armchair detective movement though… give it a shot. I don't understand the motives of the podcasters and some of the guests are super bizarre.

Same here. Ive listened to them all and Ive followed that case for a long time. It started out good but they've started having some nut jobs on as guests and its sort of just going off the rails at this point

January 5, 2016
5:30 pm
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Derpes Simplex (fka WildTurducken)
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MY PEOPLE. grouphug

 

True Crime Podcasts I like:

Serial 

Undisclosed

Generation Why (I'm finding that this one is losing steam for me though, it's really just two white guys talking to each other)

Unsolved (the Milwaukee Journal Sentinal one)

Our Thing (about organized crime- scarier than most true crime podcasts, but well researched!)

 

Podcasts I don't like:

Sword & Scale: far and away the best true crime podcast in terms of production value, and his work on the Morgan Ingram and Johnny Gosch cases was great, but Mike Boudet is a raging asshole with an ego problem, so I'm hard pressed to support him in any way.

Thinking Sideways: the humour didn't go over very well with me and the banter distracts from the information and makes it hard to follow the details

True Murder: Dan is the worst interviewer ever and goddamn refuses to edit his podcasts.  Also I think some of the guests he features are utterly unhinged and it's like uh.  I will still look at new episodes to see if I'm interested in anything, but I turn most episodes off within 10 minutes.  If you're looking to get into this one, start with Weep for the Living and Redbone, which are better quality in both sound and editing and also ability of the guest to tell a cohesive story.

Unsolved: her voice is SO monotone, and it's basically her reading off her notes.

 

On the fence about:

Missing Maura Murray

the Unresolved

Night Time

Criminal (the stories are well done, it's just not quite what I'm looking for in a true crime podcast, I think).

January 5, 2016
5:56 pm
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jmart meowed  

This is the main thing that bothers me about S&S. Sometimes his little one line asides about certain audio clips just bug the hell out of me. He'll stop the audio in the middle just to say something like, "Do you hear how little remorse he has?" or "Listen to how smug he sounds." Like, it's a podcast. All we are doing is listening. The narrator just seems so… I don't know. Unlikable. I feel like it was this same smug and unlikable attitude that led him to introduce the abortion case with that monologue about how he wasn't making a political statement. I think that whole introduction did the opposite of what he was trying to do and made it worse, which was annoying. I am a bleeding heart liberal, but I don't think I would have thought twice about the abortion episode EXCEPT for that introduction he did. I think that would be the case for most people, especially since he did a pretty good job of framing it as a class/poverty issue.

Yes!  He's so self-righteous.  It's a true crime podcast.  Everyone knows the people we're talking about are the worst of the worst.  What's the point in judging them out loud?  Yes, we know you're a better person than Jeffrey Dahmer but so is most everyone else!

January 5, 2016
6:30 pm
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wonderwombat
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Has anyone listened to the Websleuths podcast? The only episode I've heard is the Jonbenet Ramsey one and it was mesmerisingly awful. Full of long pauses and groans and tsk tsks from the hosts. Much of the ep was dedicated to the theory that Jonbenet's brother Blake – who was I think about 8 at the time – was the killer. He had to be a cold blooded psychopath because OMG! He was caught SMILING years later at the FUNERAL OF HIS OWN MOTHER. The way they described the pictures of him at the funeral made it seem as if he was giggling maniacally like some villian from a Batman movie when all he was doing was hugging his father. Have these people never been to funeral?

January 5, 2016
7:07 pm
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xoVal
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jmart meowed

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This is the main thing that bothers me about S&S. Sometimes his little one line asides about certain audio clips just bug the hell out of me. He'll stop the audio in the middle just to say something like, "Do you hear how little remorse he has?" or "Listen to how smug he sounds." Like, it's a podcast. All we are doing is listening. The narrator just seems so… I don't know. Unlikable. I feel like it was this same smug and unlikable attitude that led him to introduce the abortion case with that monologue about how he wasn't making a political statement. I think that whole introduction did the opposite of what he was trying to do and made it worse, which was annoying. I am a bleeding heart liberal, but I don't think I would have thought twice about the abortion episode EXCEPT for that introduction he did. I think that would be the case for most people, especially since he did a pretty good job of framing it as a class/poverty issue.

I, too, was disappointed by the season premiere. I just don't understand why he chose this case. Or why he chose to include that graphic bit about a separate case at the end. Granted, I haven't heard or read anything about this case, so maybe it will be more interesting in the second episode, but so far I am underwhelmed. There doesn't seem to be anything interesting about it so far, other than the facebook stuff, which was glossed over.

I just downloaded Generation Why and Missing Maura Murray podcasts! Thanks for the recommendations!

 

See, I still think he was in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation there. He made that introduction because he KNEW how people would perceive it, but then he went ahead with the episode anyways. Which, again, I don't think it was a good idea to air it. It was a good episode, but it just kept taking me back to the stupid book Ann Coulter mentioned it in, and it just seems like a case people against abortion keep bringing up. I don't think the story needs to be silenced, but it is just so sensational that it'll always be the one pro-life people bring up as the abortion standard and it really sucks. 

 

I don't know why he does some cases and not others, when there are so many crazy stories. Is it because there isn't enough audio or video recordings? Who knows, I guess. 

 

I'm not totally put off by him making opinions or such, because I feel like SO MANY docs or books try to come off unbiased when it's very clear that they are not. I kinda feel like at least he admits being affected one way or another. I can agree with him or not, but at least he doesn't try to pretend to be unbiased.

 

Also – anyone listen to the two part crazy Satanic child abuse episodes? I can't bring myself to listen to them because it seems so conspiracy theory territory, but if I can get a solid rec it'll be appreciated.

 

(loving this thread and the recs grouphug)

Fuck that idea like the fucking Captain of the Thai Fuck Team fucking at the fucking Tour de Fuck
January 5, 2016
7:58 pm
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Dramastical Change
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This thread is great! I have strong opinions about Sword & Scale too – I started off just listening to random episodes from the back catalogue and absolutely loved them. But it feels like the longer it's gone on, it's become more of the Mike show and the way he frames the episodes is changing. Or has changed. It's like his politics are coming more to the fore and I find him pretty abhorrent, now. To the point that the latest episodes, I just can't. My husband and I were listening to the last few from the most recent series and were both squirming in our seats, before he just turned it off.

 

xoVal, I'd definitely listen to the Satanic episodes – I really "liked" those, as much as you can like something like that. The main thing is just how frustrating and ridiculous people can be, rather than it being actually about child abuse per se. They just made me want to smash my head against the steering wheel..

January 5, 2016
8:43 pm
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xoVal
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This thread is great! I have strong opinions about Sword & Scale too – I started off just listening to random episodes from the back catalogue and absolutely loved them. But it feels like the longer it's gone on, it's become more of the Mike show and the way he frames the episodes is changing. Or has changed. It's like his politics are coming more to the fore and I find him pretty abhorrent, now. To the point that the latest episodes, I just can't. My husband and I were listening to the last few from the most recent series and were both squirming in our seats, before he just turned it off.

 

xoVal, I'd definitely listen to the Satanic episodes – I really "liked" those, as much as you can like something like that. The main thing is just how frustrating and ridiculous people can be, rather than it being actually about child abuse per se. They just made me want to smash my head against the steering wheel..

It did bother me when he mentioned that he used to go to the diner where Jennifer and Derek met in the third season opener. Like … why would that affect you SO much? It "hits real close to home?" Because you MIGHT have been in the same place as a murder victim? So that was definitely off-putting. Still gonna listen because, like others mentioned, the production quality is great. (True Murder – get a mic in your bathroom or something I do not understand your incompetency) 

 

Thanks for the rec, Dramastical Change! I'll check it out.

 

Um, trying to keep the juices flowing – I am definitely not liking the new season of Serial as much as the first. Not bad, but not as good. After listening to the S&S podcast on Rodney Reed, I REALLY feel that would've been a good case to cover extensively. But I did hear from a coworker that she wanted to do something completely different (was he making it up?) so that's her call. 

Fuck that idea like the fucking Captain of the Thai Fuck Team fucking at the fucking Tour de Fuck
January 5, 2016
9:04 pm
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wonderwombat
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The Satanic Panic eps of Sword and Scale are some of the best ones. As Dramastical Change said, they aren't really about child abuse, more how an obviously ridiculous story can be believed by so many and how lives can be ruined. I well remember that era when every week a new episode of Donahue or Sally Jessie would feature a guest talking about how a therapist had helped them to recover memories of childhood abuse. Not just beatings or sexual abuse, but Mum and Dad sacrificing babies and horses, and black masses in the living room, with the Law and Teachers and Doctors turning a blind eye to it all because THEY WERE IN ON IT TOO!

January 6, 2016
12:53 am
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sleepcrime
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Another vote for Criminal here — my current fave.

I bailed on S&S a while back. The host is just too much of a voyeur dudebro.

The first Bergdahl ep of Serial hooked me in a way I wasn't expecting. Can't see them ever recapturing the hype of Season 1 but it's still solid.

January 6, 2016
10:13 am
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Yaaaas. I feel like I found my people. Who cares about bloggers, lets talk podcasts and true crime.

I'm totally addicted to true crime/crime fiction podcasts and I feel like I've listened to just about all of them. Some of them I don't even like that much but when certain ones (ahem Limetown & Tanis) don't update regularly, I need some filler.

 

Criminal: I love Phoebe and her storytelling team. They make the most seemingly uninteresting stories appealing. Her voice is also really calming. I wish the episodes were longer.

 

Sword & Scale: I have such a love/hate relationship with this podcast. I am interested in a lot of the stories he's talking about, but like someone mentioned above, those random moments when he breaks into the audio with a one liner are so annoying. Also, his egotistical side has started showing. I imagine him giving himself high fives after each episode.

Generation Why: I know they can sometimes sound like they haven't done the proper research, but I just take them as two friends shooting the shit about crime and what they're interested in. I imagine if I had a podcast with my friend talking about crime, I'd sound the same way. I think they made a real effort in the last year to have better quality audio.

 

Crime Writers On: I absolutely love this group of people who have put together this podcast. It's four crime writers, non-fiction and fiction talking about Serial and things like the Jinx and Making a Murderer. I love the casual aspect of it. It's usually a very funny and interesting roundtable discussion. I think they bring a different perspective.

 

Thinking Sideways: I really wanted to like this podcast because I think they talk about some great stories. It's got the same friends just shooting the shit feel as Generation Why, but I dunno. The two males hosts come off as so mansplain-y and often cut off the female host or try to correct her. It just gets old after awhile. Also the whole first half of the episodes sound like they're reading from a script or a Wiki page.

 

Missing Maura Murray: Sounds like one big promo for the documentary they want to make. I feel like they're trying to find success in the way that Serial did.

 

Truth & Justice (was Serial Dynasty): Ugh. No. I can't with Bob Ruff. I was interested at first, but now I just find him to be a bit obnoxious. I've also read that he's not really honest about everything that he's been sharing. Rumor has it the reason Jim Clemente hasn't been back on the show is because he wants to distance himself from it.

 

The Black Tapes Pod: Love love love it. Although the acting is a little off at times, I just loved the storyline. I wanted to like the Tanis spinoff, but the acting is really terrible on this and there's way too many storylines happening and people to keep track of.

 

Limetown: Great concept, well produced, however the random release schedule makes it hard to want to be invested in it. I sort of feel like it was in the works for awhile and they rushed to get it out there once Black Tapes Pod was such a hit.

 

The Message: Produced by GE which was a little odd, but really well done. It was 8 episodes and I binged it in a day or two.

 

Undisclosed: Snoozefest. I love learning more about the Adnan case but I fall asleep listening to this podcast.

 

Based on this forum, I'm going to be downloading Night Time and Unresolved.

January 6, 2016
11:15 am
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Sword & Scale: far and away the best true crime podcast in terms of production value, and his work on the Morgan Ingram and Johnny Gosch cases was great, but Mike Boudet is a raging asshole with an ego problem, so I'm hard pressed to support him in any way.

Totally agreed.  Mike's assholery and the fact that I felt like there was very little editing done (just long swaths of audio) led me to unsubscribe months ago.  The way he constantly, almost literally demonized the mentally ill was incredibly off-putting as well.

Podcasts I like that others have mentioned: Unsolved, The Black Tapes (doing a re-listen now because I feel like I missed a lot the first time through), and The Message (I thought the ending was a bit weak but I don't know how I would have ended it so idontknow).  If GE did another podcast series I would definitely listen!

Not a true crime show, but maybe true crime adjacent is The Faculty of Horror.  The hosts are a sociologist with her masters in horror and cultural studies and a horror journalist.  I find their discussions of films really interesting because they link them to larger cultural factors as well as often discussing them in comparison to other films (e.g., there are a couple of witches on film eps and a discussion of matriarchal fears in The Wicker Man and Paranormal Activity) 

January 6, 2016
11:22 am
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But like I really need someone to discuss Missing Maura Murray with… what is going on with them? Are you super creeped out with these people who are obsessed with the case? I'm so confused about this one. But I also keep listening, so. idontknow



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