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Running Coaches
October 4, 2016
6:56 am
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pumpkin
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I thought the conversation in NYC Running Mama's thread was interesting so I wanted to hear more perspectives!

I saw that Michelle and MsFitRunner and a couple others switched over to McKirdy (is Michelle's new coach part of McKridy?  I think I saw that?) and there's no way they are paying full price.  I feel like they had to be recruited or something to leave their former coach who they had success with.

Are there any other coaches out there that people use or have used?  I used one once a few years ago preparing for my first marathon and he was really helpful to me.  I don't quite understand the whole "I was overtrained by my coach" that some of these bloggers are claiming. Mine did quite the opposite for me, actually, because I have the tendency to overdo it.  

Just curious about hams' thoughts!

October 4, 2016
8:02 am
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Vaginal Hubris
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I know NYC Running Mama and others switched over from Mark Hadley, whose name seems to come up most when it comes to overtraining. A friend used him virtually when shooting for a BQ and ended up injured.

October 4, 2016
8:28 am
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snart
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October 30, 2015

I think Tia (Arkansas Runner Mom) has been with Mark Hadley as of recently (in the last year). I've been very intrigued to see how she does with him. She seems to be able to handle a lot (her race schedule is not typical to say the least!)

I really love Tia and her ability to work so hard so I'm hoping she doesn't end up injured from too much training, but perhaps the fact that she is always racing/recovering from a race is keeping the overtraining in check?

October 4, 2016
11:03 am
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Flavored with broken dreams
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February 20, 2014

I'm glad to see this thread! I hope there's some hams with coach advice.

I'm thinking of changing coaches after almost 3 years with mine. I did just BQ for the first time this past weekend (woot!), and I've definitely improved, but I feel like my coach hasn't really done much beyond send me training. She has access to all my runs on Strava, but I don't think she spends any time analyzing how I'm doing. I feel like I need someone to poke at my weaknesses more and make suggestions on how to improve.

Anyway, I've been eyeing McKirdy even before I knew they've become a popular go-to for bloggers. There's a sort of local coach near me who has had great results with his runners, but I've heard some truly terrible stories about his ethics so I don't think he'd be a good fit for me.

I like having a coach because I know I'd tend to run myself into the ground without one. Plus, I want the critique.

October 4, 2016
11:28 am
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Sending love and good humps youre way
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Flavored with broken dreams meowed
I'm glad to see this thread! I hope there's some hams with coach advice.

I'm thinking of changing coaches after almost 3 years with mine. I did just BQ for the first time this past weekend (woot!), and I've definitely improved, but I feel like my coach hasn't really done much beyond send me training. She has access to all my runs on Strava, but I don't think she spends any time analyzing how I'm doing. I feel like I need someone to poke at my weaknesses more and make suggestions on how to improve.

Anyway, I've been eyeing McKirdy even before I knew they've become a popular go-to for bloggers. There's a sort of local coach near me who has had great results with his runners, but I've heard some truly terrible stories about his ethics so I don't think he'd be a good fit for me.

I like having a coach because I know I'd tend to run myself into the ground without one. Plus, I want the critique.

Congrats! I'm shooting for a BQ this weekend eek

October 4, 2016
8:55 pm
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pumpkin
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October 6, 2011

Flavored with broken dreams meowed

I'm glad to see this thread! I hope there's some hams with coach advice.

I'm thinking of changing coaches after almost 3 years with mine. I did just BQ for the first time this past weekend (woot!), and I've definitely improved, but I feel like my coach hasn't really done much beyond send me training. She has access to all my runs on Strava, but I don't think she spends any time analyzing how I'm doing. I feel like I need someone to poke at my weaknesses more and make suggestions on how to improve.

Anyway, I've been eyeing McKirdy even before I knew they've become a popular go-to for bloggers. There's a sort of local coach near me who has had great results with his runners, but I've heard some truly terrible stories about his ethics so I don't think he'd be a good fit for me.

I like having a coach because I know I'd tend to run myself into the ground without one. Plus, I want the critique.

Congratulations on the BQ!!! I'm right there with you on running myself into the ground without some direction. I never heard of McKirdy until MsFitRunner switched to him. I don't like some of his comments/exchanges I have seen him have with people on IG. He just seems kind of…douchy? I don't know…cocky, maybe? I just think it's weird the Hadley crew seems to be dropping him at the same time for McKirdy.

October 4, 2016
9:30 pm
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Flavored with broken dreams
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Meows: 900
Snarking Since:
February 20, 2014

pumpkin meowed

Flavored with broken dreams meowed

I'm glad to see this thread! I hope there's some hams with coach advice.

I'm thinking of changing coaches after almost 3 years with mine. I did just BQ for the first time this past weekend (woot!), and I've definitely improved, but I feel like my coach hasn't really done much beyond send me training. She has access to all my runs on Strava, but I don't think she spends any time analyzing how I'm doing. I feel like I need someone to poke at my weaknesses more and make suggestions on how to improve.

Anyway, I've been eyeing McKirdy even before I knew they've become a popular go-to for bloggers. There's a sort of local coach near me who has had great results with his runners, but I've heard some truly terrible stories about his ethics so I don't think he'd be a good fit for me.

I like having a coach because I know I'd tend to run myself into the ground without one. Plus, I want the critique.

Congratulations on the BQ!!! I'm right there with you on running myself into the ground without some direction. I never heard of McKirdy until MsFitRunner switched to him. I don't like some of his comments/exchanges I have seen him have with people on IG. He just seems kind of…douchy? I don't know…cocky, maybe? I just think it's weird the Hadley crew seems to be dropping him at the same time for McKirdy.

Ugh, I want to avoid douchy (which is why the local guy is a no-go for me). I'll have to checkout his IG comments. Thanks for the heads up.

October 4, 2016
9:32 pm
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harken on it
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August 7, 2016

There are three different recreational running coaching companies in my smallish city, and I know several other RRCA-certified coaches through my running club.  It seems like this stuff is a dime a dozen, and it's hard to tell whether the availability is common nation wide.  It seems like most coaches/paid running teams offer scaled services, with a combination of one-on-one track sessions, group runs, cross training classes, and "plans" sort of Frankenstein-ed together from the more popular classic training plans.  A lot of my track club friends use a coach, or at least group coaching, and it seems all to be time/pace based (instead of heart rate, which I use).  I have to admit, I like the idea of having a sure-thing training plan for a specific goal, but I really need flexibility in my running schedule.  

October 4, 2016
10:49 pm
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slowgo
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September 27, 2016

Yeah read his IG comments, def cheesy/douchy. Think he is just better at social media than other coaches like Hadley. Maybe Hadley got too big for these elites/semi-elites/bloggers so they've moved on to the next hot thing… maybe the cycle will continue, time will tell. I mean how many runners you think picked up Hadley bc these big bloggers used him?? Maybe he couldn't give them all the attention they needed, he just got too big?

October 4, 2016
11:05 pm
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Flavored with broken dreams
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Meows: 900
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February 20, 2014

sending love and good humps , Good luck! I hope you have a fantastic race!!!

October 5, 2016
11:29 am
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ham goggles
Feline Porklord
Meows: 1254
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February 2, 2012

Is Mark Hadley Alana Hadley's dad? If so, then I'm not surprised he runs people into the ground since he basically did it to his own kid.

I've had such a good experience using the Hanson's basic beginner plan that I will probably use one of their coaches next fall when I want to seriously aim for a BQ. We shall see.

October 5, 2016
2:41 pm
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hobbyjogger
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February 7, 2013

I'm following this because I've been considering working with a coach after I have this baby to work towards my BQ goal! 

October 5, 2016
5:08 pm
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Snarkastic
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Meows: 2409
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January 12, 2013

Flavored with broken dreams meowed
I'm glad to see this thread! I hope there's some hams with coach advice.

I'm thinking of changing coaches after almost 3 years with mine. I did just BQ for the first time this past weekend (woot!), and I've definitely improved, but I feel like my coach hasn't really done much beyond send me training. She has access to all my runs on Strava, but I don't think she spends any time analyzing how I'm doing. I feel like I need someone to poke at my weaknesses more and make suggestions on how to improve.

Anyway, I've been eyeing McKirdy even before I knew they've become a popular go-to for bloggers. There's a sort of local coach near me who has had great results with his runners, but I've heard some truly terrible stories about his ethics so I don't think he'd be a good fit for me.

I like having a coach because I know I'd tend to run myself into the ground without one. Plus, I want the critique.

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