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Pure Speculation Thread
October 12, 2015
4:05 pm
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Aggressively Stupid Ladycoder
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October 18, 2014

Since TW lies and omits many things, a lot of times we are left to speculation on her WTF.  I know it pisses a lot of people off, but sometimes we can't help, lol.  Maybe a separate speculation thread will help.  We can share all our theories here.

I'll go first.  I really think the mystery house is because of a separation.  It's the only thing that makes sense.  And its really wierd that TA is all over Jenna's instagram now which to me is a desperate attempt to show that they really are together.  Divorce/separation speculation has been going on for years (I read some of the old thread) but she never reacted in this manner.  He is literally all over her IG and she is constantly bragging how much in love they are.  Maybe he took those trips to appease her or as an exchange for making the inevitable divorce go smoother.  This also makes Jenna's parental involvement make more sense- they helped her move, took the kids for the summer, and paid (speculation) for bootcamp. 

The reason I first started believing this is because he was absent on the Hawaii trip.  Plus when she was taking all those trips earlier this year, it was every other week end.  Very similar to a visitation agreement schedule.  Everyone was like where are the kids.  It would be easy to say they were with TA, but she refused to acknowledge it.

Well, these are just my thoughts.  I'm sure there are holes, but I've convinced myself, lol.

October 12, 2015
5:16 pm
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Stuart Smalley
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I have a question in regards to this and please forgive me if it's been covered already. I tried too look myself but …so many pages….so fat.

So I knew she left mormonism (I get beat over the head with it constantly by anything and everything she posts) but what about TH? Is he still a mormon or did he leave as well?

October 12, 2015
5:52 pm
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champagne taste beer budget
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Meows: 1278
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December 18, 2013

Stuart Smalley meowed
I have a question in regards to this and please forgive me if it's been covered already. I tried too look myself but …so many pages….so fat.

So I knew she left mormonism (I get beat over the head with it constantly by anything and everything she posts) but what about TH? Is he still a mormon or did he leave as well?

The general belief is that he was never really that Morman. He joined the church after a high school study abroad (Poland to the US) as a way to get sponsored into college, connections etc.

 

Basically once Jenna was like I'm not Mormon, he wasn't either. Although when asked Jenna never says much other than that is his business…

October 12, 2015
6:59 pm
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Camera-Facing Narcissist pose
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Meows: 134
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July 12, 2013

Aggressively Stupid Ladycoder meowed
Since TW lies and omits many things, a lot of times we are left to speculation on her WTF.  I know it pisses a lot of people off, but sometimes we can't help, lol.  Maybe a separate speculation thread will help.  We can share all our theories here.

I'll go first.  I really think the mystery house is because of a separation.  It's the only thing that makes sense.  And its really wierd that TA is all over Jenna's instagram now which to me is a desperate attempt to show that they really are together.  Divorce/separation speculation has been going on for years (I read some of the old thread) but she never reacted in this manner.  He is literally all over her IG and she is constantly bragging how much in love they are.  Maybe he took those trips to appease her or as an exchange for making the inevitable divorce go smoother.  This also makes Jenna's parental involvement make more sense- they helped her move, took the kids for the summer, and paid (speculation) for bootcamp. 

The reason I first started believing this is because he was absent on the Hawaii trip.  Plus when she was taking all those trips earlier this year, it was every other week end.  Very similar to a visitation agreement schedule.  Everyone was like where are the kids.  It would be easy to say they were with TA, but she refused to acknowledge it.

Well, these are just my thoughts.  I'm sure there are holes, but I've convinced myself, lol.

Yes! I am totally on the separated bandwagon/conspiracy theory. My crazy theory: they went through a rough patch, she booked non-refundable trips and he is going on them since they're already paid for as a last ditch effort to pretend he tried. 

 

Certainly can't blame him, I'd want to get as far away as possible from That Leech.

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October 12, 2015
10:07 pm
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Time and Relative Dimension in Space
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Meows: 418
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December 2, 2013

The combination of having both a purchased home and rental home plus TA being splashed all over Jenna's IG recently are both screaming separation/divorce to me. I feel like we have literally seen more of TA in the last several weeks than we have in YEARS. It is strange. I suppose the house stuff could be written off in other ways (investment? rental property for extra income?) but I don't know … 

October 12, 2015
10:37 pm
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Purple21
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July 28, 2014

I was sure they were separated at least from T2's birthday, when TW went on the girls' trip away and there was no mention of who was looking after the kids.  If you look back around that time, she seemed to be on a separated parent schedule – every second weekend, she would post something about being with the kids, and on the other weekends she was away somewhere. Also that was when she started during archery on mid-week evenings, after spending one Wednesday night alone in a restaurant.  That made me think TH had the kids one week night and every second weekend. 

Maybe what we're seeing now is the trial reconciliation?! He got back together with her long enough to convince her to sign the paperwork on that house?

Most pure speculation of all!!!

October 12, 2015
11:05 pm
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so materialistic and unnecessary
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Meows: 336
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June 8, 2015

my 2 cents worth- well I can see where you hams are coming from with the separation- the houses, the absence from photos and ultimately the absence during passportgate all point that way.

 

for some reason I feel we are seeing an intervention or emergency as that wife is having a breakdown - I think she may be out of her ever loving mind. I need not point to all the signs of her delusion. I have for a while wondered how the people in her life support this, but this latest multiple vacationing and new revelation of her mother being there all point to them propping her up because she has fully lost her shit.

 

I think she has been cracking as early as last year – all the 30 party, holiday crap was TA placating her while he tried to work out how the f to restructure the home life to manage her unraveling. Studying may have been agreed between her parents and him as a way to get her away form the kids and doing an activity to keep her away from any real responsibility and humor her. there is no way a sane adult could support the spending, holidays, ladycoding failure unless it is for a greater purpose. they pass her off from Shay, to her parents, back to TA, they know she doesn't give a shit about her kids so they cover for them too with babysitting and tell Jenna to go off and chase the light, while having crisis conversation in the background.

 

I know I am being generous- and I hardly expect this level of sensitivity from a pragmatic  cheese warden – but TA might be biding his time to leave because she is too unhinged and unpredictable.

 

The imminent failure/rage quit at boot camp is the next thing they are preparing for. I am waiting for the next stage to really see- what is TA's actual plan. And I feel the kids will be sent to live with her parents and Shay soon, her mother has businesses to run and is only there as a last resort.

 

I may of course be wrong and I would equally delight in that separation, because it would prove TA is not a careless robot and would give me hope for a brighter future for those kids.

October 12, 2015
11:14 pm
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so materialistic and unnecessary
Expert Hamcat
Meows: 336
Snarking Since:
June 8, 2015

oh- let the record show that just because I think she is loony, mentally ill people can still be judged just like anyone else. Jenna is still a horrible terrible b***h and I have no sympathy I my heart whatsoever.

October 13, 2015
1:44 am
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Sexy Pee Strings
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Meows: 168
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September 23, 2014

Lots of people, including hams, have and manage mental illness while still managing to hold down a job, study, treat their kids well, AND unload the dishwasher.

Her refusal to take anything because it might affect her sex drive is so impossibly insufferable. Because who cares if you treat anyone in your life well or accomplish anything? Just make sure to keep Vibratex in business, that's what counts!

October 13, 2015
1:50 am
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Eastern European reverse knee pop
Expert Hamcat
Meows: 444
Snarking Since:
January 29, 2013

I think they bought the house for Suave's family…
Anyway, every now and then Greenjello with pop in with an update on TW. I keep watching for you, girl! Can't believe Jenna has kept her life under wraps so well regarding her marriage situation.

October 13, 2015
1:59 am
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onatrek
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May 30, 2014

Stuart Smalley meowed
I have a question in regards to this and please forgive me if it's been covered already. I tried too look myself but …so many pages….so fat.

So I knew she left mormonism (I get beat over the head with it constantly by anything and everything she posts) but what about TH? Is he still a mormon or did he leave as well?

She's repeatedly said it's up to him to tell his own journey but she's the extrovert and that'll likely never happen.

On the other hand, she's essentially said he's also out – and from the podcast, it almost sounds like he was heading out right alongside her.

Plus she's talked about watering down what she on her blog about leaving, etc. because of her parents and other family/friends and would have specified having to do so about TH if he hadn't also left.

This post has multiple comments that allude to them both being out or they'd be having to deal with some issues 'mixed' (Mo/No-Mo) couples face, such as this one:

The question that gets at how to navigate one spouse or family member leaving is a sad one, sad because it’s something that so many people I know are struggling with. The LDS Church is a really dominating force in the life of a believer, and there are many doctrines that specifically talk about how your family needs to be participating and believing on a level equal to your own. When it comes to your spouse, it’s unclear what happens if the wife is striving for a “Celestial marriage” and the husband is dragging his feet. Does the wife get some sort of reward in the afterlife, apart from her husband who is punished for his lax approach in mortality? We, as a couple, haven’t had to face that, but I know a lot of couples who have and it’s brutal.

And further in that comment she also says (which outright says TH is also out or else it'd never have been an issue of if either of them re-examined their marriage once they were out either)

One interesting thing to note, is that there are a lot of couples who divorce after they leave as well, even when they leave together. I’ve never thought this, and I know TH hasn’t either, but when you get out you re-examine everything about who you are and all of the decisions you’ve made. It’s common to think “Do I even like my spouse as a person absent the Church? Do I want to stay married to them?” My understanding is that divorce among ex-Mormons is pretty common as they examine their goals and realize that they no longer align outside of Mormonism.

http://thatwifeblog.com/2014/02/10/your-post-suggestions-re-mormonism/ (the above)

On another post about having left the church in the comments she said:

Jenna Reply:
August 7th, 2014 at 2:51 pm

It’s so wonderful to be on the same page as your spouse when it comes to religious beliefs! I’m grateful for that every day.

http://thatwifeblog.com/2014/08/07/why-i-left-the-mormon-church/ (the above)

From the podcast (though I feel like there was another where she insinuated he was on his way out before she was):

Crystal: Yeah, that's perfect. Um, ? if you're open to I would love to talk about what caused you to leave the LDS faith?

Jenna: Yes, so I think I've established…

<snipped – but kinda interesting to see it 'said' and not edited for her blog>

Crystal: A lot of now ex Mormons. I will say I think people that leave, like women that leave because they've found out, um, true information about the Church that they weren't taught – is very very rare. It's typically the guy is doing it. It's typically driven by a husband leaving asked when his wife leaves. So that you did that speaks so highly of your intellect. Um, uh, I'm very impressed. And I'm also impressed that you found your way out through a Church prescribed wiki website there that is designed to keep people in [Jenna laughs] that's pretty incredible.

Jenna: [laughing] Yeah maybe they're maybe they're rethinking that now. And I, you know, as a married couple, um, as I said, I don't comment on exactly where my husband is or what he believes. But I will say that the exercise of asking questions and having open conversation with each other was amazing! I mean we were talking to each other in ways that we had never dared talk to each other about things that we thought we could never talk to each other about. And that really, I think, cemented our relationship, um, closer together and in these new ways where we trusted each other and could be very vulnerable. Because I think that, as believers, we were so afraid that we would show the other person that we weren't celestial – having these conversations with each other, really strengthened our marriage.

http://justpaste.it/womanevolving_04262015 (podcast transcript – the many other podcast transcripts are posted in both the 'New to Jenna' thread on page 1 and the newest regular Jenna thread on page 8, I believe)

October 13, 2015
5:37 am
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836185
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July 13, 2012

is this why she was sobbing on the floor all last spring? I thought there had to be more of a reason behind it but the general consensus seemed more like "oh, that's her + life." 

When was T2's bday–something like April, right? And the trip to Hawaii for Christmas was weird. Maybe they split before Christmas (or were at least separated), through the spring–Jenna sobbing as she confronted the idea of being an actual divorced mother, as opposed to divorced childless person–and then she finally gave in to getting a job….? So TH told her to take the kids to his parents and galavant about Europe, as compensation for her entertaining the thought of being an actual working adult?

October 13, 2015
6:52 am
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#modifiedWhole30
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March 4, 2013

late for ballet meowed
You guys know I've been thinking they are separated/getting divorced since Passport Gate.  It is WAY too weird that he wasn't available to help get their son's passport taken care of.  

Also, the latest picture of her and her pragmatic husband is in B&W.  Maybe an old picture and the lack of pink hair would prove it?

That black and white photo made me wonder too.  I hadn't considered it was because it wasn't current, though, that's an interesting theory.  More likely that Jenna was trying to improve upon some photo flaw with her skin or hair (maybe the pink washed out right away).  

Then again, the photo of her and her mom is in black and white too.  Very strange.



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