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Pure Speculation Thread
October 21, 2015
4:54 pm
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AbsoluT phoTgrapher
Hamcat
Meows: 62
Snarking Since:
February 16, 2015

1/16 cocktail party meowed

Ah but you're thinking of this in normal people terms, Autobahn. In Selfish b***h Whacko World, if she got pregnant now T1 would be plenty old enough (6 next April) to change diapers, give night-time bottles, and generally ensure plenty of Sparkling Twirling Me Time. It's the same thing huge fundamentalist Christian families do- the older children raise the younger ones while Mom squirts out an unending baby fountain.

 

I wonder what the data says about # and spacing of children of narcissists versus the norm?

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Aka never ending baby fountain
October 21, 2015
5:44 pm
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Sexy Pee Strings
Hamcat
Meows: 168
Snarking Since:
September 23, 2014

Unlike Jenna, I love all my name-children! Bartender, a round of your finest Franzia for everyone! oregonian_winesmiley

October 21, 2015
8:23 pm
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cheerful Starbucks cups
Expert Hamcat
Meows: 245
Snarking Since:
October 1, 2015

I am out of Franzia but I did just open a bottle of Arbor Mist merlot (whooo hooo!) Does that still count?

October 21, 2015
11:49 pm
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Sexy Pee Strings
Hamcat
Meows: 168
Snarking Since:
September 23, 2014

Arbor Mist definitely counts. It might even be #brave.

October 22, 2015
10:05 am
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cheerful Starbucks cups
Expert Hamcat
Meows: 245
Snarking Since:
October 1, 2015

1/16 cocktail party meowed
Arbor Mist definitely counts. It might even be #brave.

Brave Arbor Mist is the best kind of Arbor Mist!

I only found GOMI a few weeks ago (through some google search about Gala Darling, actually) but have gotten sucked into the whole ThatWife saga. Now I can't look away chair

October 24, 2015
2:44 pm
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I rode Ruby off the rails with my beefy ladylegs
Expert Hamcat
Meows: 400
Snarking Since:
March 19, 2013

zhnjg meowed

I don't think she'll ever get pregnant again. Can't believe she hasn't had her tubes tied.

Anyway, I was mining her Instagram for a pic that apparently I just dreamed up, and instead I found this one right before she had T2: https://instagram.com/p/VNZNBRrqlp/?taken-by=thatwife (it's just a pic of a Joseph Smith book).

So one week she's into Joseph Smith books, and the next, she's pushing her daughter out and knowing she can't ever do to T2 what Mormonism did to Jenna?

Not really snarking on the lack of consistency because I think when you're looking back on something like leaving a religion, timeline stuff is often muddled. However, I've always thought that Jenna left Mormonism when she realized she'd always be a failure within that structure. She thought she was going to be the best mom ever, recipient of adoration from all, but T1 taught her that wouldn't be so. Maybe she suspected something was wrong with T1 (like PPD, say), and thought T2 would go better. Then she has T2 and realizes nope, it's just her. So amidst all of her outsourcing/in-home nanny or whatever other help she hired after T2 was born, she began to look elsewhere for validation–things that could validate her apart from being mother since she'd always be one big epic fail in that regard. And so, feminist Jenna was born. 

Actually, I can't really blame her there. But I wouldn't go on to embrace my failure and work as hard as I can to forget the fact that I was a mother at all #wherearethechildren2015

The "feminism" came from realizing she is a complete failure at yet another thing – motherhood. Something that comes so naturally to many other women, regardless of intellect, social status, income, etc. So, instead of adapting, like a normal person, she decides to reject motherhood completely and embrace this bumper sticker feminism which is basically spouting off garbage that isn't true and makes no sense or repeating some catch phrase she heard on some podcast that she doesn't even understand. Just because you don't like motherhood doesn't mean you can treat your children worse than many treat their dogs.

October 24, 2015
3:22 pm
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cookie cutter shark
Expert Hamcat
Meows: 288
Snarking Since:
September 11, 2012

Jenna wont have any more kids.  No way.  Mormonism "made" her have the first two, she wont have more now that she's an ex-mo… though I could definitely see her having a #brave exmo  feminist abortion

October 24, 2015
11:24 pm
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Quarter Assed Quilt
Feline Porklord
Meows: 1801
Snarking Since:
April 23, 2013

100PercentOrganicTrollTears meowed
Are they actually living in the new house? I'm confused. In one of the snapchats it looked like they were still in the rental (the air return up on the wall and the picture frame with wire strung accross it?) And didn't their Italian landlord just recently give them a new dining set?

Based on a SnapChat from earlier today, they are still in the rental. The abundant lattice out front was unmistakable. 

I want the house mystery solved. Are the remodeling it? Was it purchased by/for TH's family? chin  Remember how Jenna went radio-silent for DAYS after that whole house thing was found out here? What does it all mean? sangry

November 6, 2015
12:40 pm
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Lumbersexual Narwhal
Feline Porklord
Meows: 1219
Snarking Since:
June 8, 2015

This is how I see this whole DBC debacle/the rest of the foreseeable future unfolding:

  • TH tells Jenna that since she is not actually acting like a SAHM she needs to get off her ass and get a job to pay for all the outsourcing.
  • Jenna picks something wildly inappropriate for her strengths/talents that also requires several costly training programs be completed before she is qualified for this "job".
  • Jenna f**ks around during training program and never learns anything.
  • Jenna gets passed through DBC because they gots ta get paid, whether she is actually learning the material or not.
  • Jenna "graduates" from DBC and can't find a job in her chosen field because "patriarchy", not because she is in no way qualified to perform said job.
  • Since Jenna can't be a ladycoder she picks a new "career" that also requires an expensive and lengthy training program. 
  • Jenna f**ks around during training program and never learns anything

lather, rinse, repeat.

FKA: 100PercentOrganicTrollTears/TheMostFuckableOfThemAll/Train-Kicking Daughter
November 6, 2015
2:17 pm
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clicker
Hamcat
Meows: 55
Snarking Since:
August 8, 2012

I'm pretty sure Jenna is only moving on to Phase 2 (instead of repeating Phase 1, as suggested) because of some deal she negotiated with TH, or because he gave her an ultimatum of some kind.

If memory serves, TH only agreed to marry her if she got out of debt so it's not like he hasn't done it before. I could easily imagine him making a similar demand now, that he is only going to stay in the marriage if she starts contributing.

Perhaps That House (owned by That Husband) will become HIS residence if Jenna doesn't start making a meaningful contribution to their household and Jenna will have to fend for herself? Perhaps living in That House (as a pragmatic family) will be her reward for finishing boot camp and getting a job? Or, maybe That House will be where the children are boarded, and TW and TA will move in and out in a custody sharing arrangement where they will be responsible for their own bachelor pads?

I don't believe Jenna is at absolutely don't understand why she isn't taking advantage of the opportunity to repeat this portion of the program and give herself a SOLID foundation on which to build her (imaginary, purely fictional) career. How can you make up the difference later, if you don't understand what you're doing in the here and now? How on earth is she meant to keep up in phase 2 if she doesn't grok the material in phase 1? Especially when she already did that night school class to (supposedly) give her some kind of edge in this program?

I know, Jenna doesn't make sense as a rule but this really doesn't make any sense.

Why doesn't she repeat phase 1 at a less-frantic pace? If there is legitimate concern about the children (as if, but let's put on our imagination hats) and they are suffering in her absence, why not repeat phase 1 for her own benefit and theirs? She could leave the city earlier so she can be home before the kids are in bed…spend more time with the kids on the weekend…go in late one morning a week so she can bike T2 to school etc. and get herself a f**king clue about what she's doing so she doesn't bomb in phase 2.

Or she could repeat phase 1 and go BALLS OUT and stop dicking around at the weekend, take shorter lunch breaks and stop farking around with her hair and otherwise not giving 100% of her attention to this program she's meant to immerse herself in.

Skipping on to phase 2 when she's not finishing phase 1 with a freaking clue is just confusing.

I'm wandering into pure speculation thread territory here but I wonder if she isn't feeling pressured (or actually being pressured) to keep up with some contract she negotiated with TA. He agreed to marry her on the condition she got out of debt (and lost weight, maybe?) now perhaps he's only agreed to stay married to her if she contributes some significant income into That Household? I was fully ready to buy into That Separation (or That Trial Separation) and I'm fully ready to buy into the notion that TA gave her an ultimatum…get a job, or we get a divorce. Or perhaps, get a job to pay for all of this outsourcing of SAHM duties or actually stay at home and contribute to our family.

Any which way I look at it, I don't see how moving on to phase 2 makes any sense. comfortable moving on to Phase 2, so there must be some incentive or ultimatum for her to decline the option to repeat Phase 1…maybe That House has something to do with it?

November 6, 2015
2:21 pm
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clicker
Hamcat
Meows: 55
Snarking Since:
August 8, 2012

Gah, apologies for that disaster comment I just left that was a copy and paste clipboard nightmare. I always compose comments and then cut and paste them to post since they're so frequently lost in space on GOMI…didn't work in my favour that time!

November 6, 2015
5:27 pm
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Purple21
Feline Porklord
Meows: 3909
Snarking Since:
July 28, 2014

She's wearing an incredible amount of makeup in those snaps, more than usual – I think her face must have been swollen with crying after TH heard that she was recommended to repeat.  That was probably the first inkling he'd heard that she was struggling with the material, after weeks of her being too busy to come home to the kids at a decent hour, but still on top of the material enough to have an LNO last weekend. Maybe she backtracked quickly and said she didn't HAVE to repeat, after he got angry. 

I think, logically, with his experience in studying and holding down a job, he would know that repeating was the right option IF he knew how badly she doing. She would be trying to convince him that the time/ money so far has been well invested, so she's not the right person to tell him. What a shame it's not high school – he can't schedule a meeting with the teacher to get the real story. 

Also I have to laugh at making up the difference later on. Good luck with that, Jenna. 

November 6, 2015
5:37 pm
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derp twerk
MEOWGOD
Meows: 13056
Snarking Since:
March 4, 2013

It makes sense to us that TA would have expectations for how long Jenna can eff around while he pays to outsource all of her responsibilities (and while, presumably, he takes on any child duties that can't be outsourced).  His life is probably disrupted by DBC and I can see where he'd want her to finish it up on the expected schedule.  However, he seems like a total wimp.  I have a hard time believing he'd take a hard line on anything.  She does whatever she wants, all the time, and the only time I remember him not giving her what she wanted was when he put the kabosh on Greece last summer (after she pissed away a lot of money on change fees during PassportGate). 



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