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That Wife Learns to Code
October 14, 2015
10:16 pm
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People Pleaser!
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January 10, 2014

She is now more humble in calling herself a "web developer student" on her github page. This is progress though likely a fluck.

Formerly "Managing My Suave" and "A Cad and a Bounder"
October 15, 2015
1:24 am
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onatrek
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May 30, 2014

I put this in the main thread, too, but maybe it should really be here since it's what she's planning on contributing uh

In 2015 I was accepted to Dev Bootcamp where I will add web development to my skillset. After 5+ years of being self-employed while caring for two children I'm looking forward to working full-time in the world of tech where I can marry my aesthetic eye, idiomatic writing style, and blossoming web development skills

October 15, 2015
7:26 am
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girlyswot
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September 24, 2014

Surely this thread should be: That Wife Doesn't Learn to Code.

 

Because she isn't learning anything.

October 15, 2015
8:44 am
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onatrek meowed

I put this in the main thread, too, but maybe it should really be here since it's what she's planning on contributing <img .net/gom

In 2015 I was accepted to Dev Bootcamp where I will add web development to my skillset. After 5+ years of being self-employed while caring for two children I'm looking forward to working full-time in the world of tech where I can marry my aesthetic eye, idiomatic writing style, and blossoming web development skills

She loves that word "skilset" and over uses it. It sounds so techie.and it should be two words anyway, skill set, which lead to…

Her "idiomatic writing style?" Is that what it is? lol

Formerly "Managing My Suave" and "A Cad and a Bounder"
October 15, 2015
8:57 am
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onatrek meowed

I put this in the main thread, too, but maybe it should really be here since it's what she's planning on contributing <img .net/gom

In 2015 I was accepted to Dev Bootcamp where I will add web development to my skillset. After 5+ years of being self-employed while caring for two children I'm looking forward to working full-time in the world of tech where I can marry my aesthetic eye, idiomatic writing style, and blossoming web development skills

She loves that word "skilset" and over uses it. It sounds so techie.and it should be two words anyway, skill set, which lead to…

Her "idiomatic writing style?" Is that what it is? lol

smiley-laughing004 I would love to hear her explain in her baby uptalk voice what the hell that means. Maybe she'll do a snapchat about it.

October 15, 2015
10:29 am
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Lindsay Weir
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I tried to search yesterday to see if Dev Bootcamp does internships (looks like they don't), but came across this NPR article, which seemed fair and balanced. It's about bootcamps in general, but visits and talks about Dev Bootcamp in San Francisco.

http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2014/12/20/370954988/twelve-weeks-to-a-six-figure-job

October 15, 2015
1:09 pm
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Jackie Tyler
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Lindsay Weir meowed
I tried to search yesterday to see if Dev Bootcamp does internships (looks like they don't), but came across this NPR article, which seemed fair and balanced. It's about bootcamps in general, but visits and talks about Dev Bootcamp in San Francisco.

http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2014/12/20/370954988/twelve-weeks-to-a-six-figure-job

That's an interesting article! There were some comments that stood out to me:

"During my years as a programmer, I was amazed that the best programmers were either kids who learned programming on their own or came from the accounting profession. The ones with computer science degrees were rarely all that interested in it because they entered it only because they thought it was just an easy way to a large paycheck. The ones who came to it out of personal interest and natural talent did much better because they knew what they wanted to do with it rather than what they wanted it to do for them."

 

That's the problem with Jenna, and the reason she will never be a six figure salary earner in this field.

October 15, 2015
9:36 pm
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onatrek
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What is still confusing to you about Ruby?

Writing things from scratch. I get very anxious sitting down and starting at a blank page. That’s why I liked the debugging, because I was able to think about how the code works instead of being forced to create working code on my own.

What are you going to study to get more prepared for Phase 1?

Complete more of the Ruby challenges. I’m going going to get better at writing unless I do more code writing.

October 15, 2015
10:00 pm
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Ambitious is my middle name
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onatrek meowed
What is still confusing to you about Ruby?

Writing things from scratch. I get very anxious sitting down and starting at a blank page. That’s why I liked the debugging, because I was able to think about how the code works instead of being forced to create working code on my own.

What are you going to study to get more prepared for Phase 1?

Complete more of the Ruby challenges. I’m going going to get better at writing unless I do more code writing.

I was just about to post :)  Good think as a coder, somebody who writes code and as a female she won't need to create working code on her own, as a person.  I love the double use of the word going in her sentence about how she's not going to get better at writing….perhaps she should also add proofreading to that.

I love how she writes she's going to do more of the Ruby challenges.  Tomorrow is Friday, I wonder what she is doing this weekend.

Also – seeing as she likes to get her eight hours of sleep in each night – will she stay up late working on her challenges for her class or will she go to bed?  My guess is she will have BIL complete what she doesn't get done in class.

October 15, 2015
10:06 pm
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Ambitious is my middle name
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Some other gems that should not go unposted (on this thread, I know they were in the old TW huge thread):

 

Week 7 – game:

What was the most difficult part of this challenge?
– I was very frustrated by this challenge. It took me a long time to figure out how to write a game that worked with Javascript this way, because frankly I think it's a stupid time to have us write a game. No one would ever write a game in this way with the amount of knowledge we have. A game needs user input, something we can't do directly in terminal using Javascript (as far as I can tell). I worked a lot faster once I gave up on trying to design an actual game that someone would play and just put something together that created objects and manipulated
the properties of those objects.What did you learn about creating objects and functions that interact with one another?
– I couldn't figure out how to pass variables between functions properly so I eneded up using one function to do everything.
Did you learn about any new built-in methods you could use in your refactored solution? If so, what were they and how do they work?
-I didn't refactor. I did learn how to generate random numbers in a range though, which will come in handy 

How can you access and manipulate properties of objects?
-I used the dot notation method for this. In other challenges we used square brackets.

Week 7 – javascript olympics:

// Reflection

// // What JavaScript knowledge did you solidify in this challenge?
// // -I figured out how to access and print a property for each object in an array, which was surprisingly hard to do.
// // What are constructor functions?
// -Constructor functions seem to build out the properties of an object. Seems like that's what we were supposed to use for Release 1, but we didn't know about them yet. I'm watching some YouTube videos to try to learn more.
// // How are constructors different from Ruby classes (in your research)?
// -They make a lot less sense?

Week 8 – gradebook:

// // Were there any new methods you were able to incorporate? If so, what were they and how did they work?
// -The only new method I used was feeling more confident in looking at other people's code when trying to figure out
// what to do next. So much better than googling hte wrong phrases and stumbling around in Stack Overflow for awhile.

October 15, 2015
10:47 pm
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836185
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July 13, 2012

Ppl kept saying she wasn't suited for code because statistics/math. I thought she wasn't suited for it because language. Language lacks the function of code, but it's highly conceptual. You have to have two qualities to learn another language. One is self-discipline just to learn vocab/writing if a different alphabet/script. But you also have to be able to understand words conceptually–you can't directly translate from your native language. Sometimes you have to accept grammar/words/word functions that your language has no reference for. 

For coding, I think the reason people with a natural interest go further is because they're willing to tackle those difficult concepts and work their way through (I mean, this is probably true for most things). Whereas if you're just going through the motions, you just passively accept a concept and try to work around it. Like variables and functions and properties. Are you just throwing words around or are you really thinking about what these words mean?

Sorry. I've spent years thinking about how people learn and my own learning process, so I'm mildly obsessed with unpacking Jenna's. This github is a goldmine. She reminds me SO MUCH of my early high school students–grades 9/10. A bootcamp may be perfect for her. I can see why she struggled to complete her degree. 

October 15, 2015
10:53 pm
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polynomialpurebred
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April 7, 2014

I broke her game by using negatives, fractions, out.of bound positive integers (like 9) and finaly text. Testing, what's that???

October 15, 2015
11:35 pm
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Lindsay Weir
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Meows: 6363
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December 5, 2011

polynomialpurebred meowed
I broke her game by using negatives, fractions, out.of bound positive integers (like 9) and finaly text. Testing, what's that???

Ha.

 

I'll never forget the day that my partner and I had created a photo-posting app (we were supposed to be incorporating a gem called paperclip), but you also had to sign up for the website, with an e-mail and password, etc., and create a user. Yeah. Well, we showed up to class the next day to work on our project. We had uploaded it to heroku, not thinking things through and we had a bot or horrible person or SOMEBODY sign up to our website a thousand times and then write really horrible, graphic, racist, violent things to our website. Fun times! Hadn't thought through that one…



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