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Wedding Photographers love/hate
April 30, 2014
8:13 pm
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icicleicicle
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As a wedding photographer I just want to add some perspective.  I was dying to shoot a same-sex wedding even BEFORE they were legal in my state (CA). I only got one last year and it was in NYC. I would LOVE to shoot a non-Western style wedding! Where can I sign up?! The fact is, it's difficult to get the business even if you want it/love it/support it. People hiring for Indian weddings want proof you've done it before so you know what you're getting into. Or, worse, if they know you're their first, they want it for free or cheap. It's that awful catch-22; you need experience to get the job, but to get the job you need experience.

It's a risk to take a chance on a photographer. But it can be worth it! And maybe you'll end being the one featured on their main page for the next couple to see.

April 30, 2014
8:48 pm
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icicleicicle said
As a wedding photographer I just want to add some perspective.  I was dying to shoot a same-sex wedding even BEFORE they were legal in my state (CA). I only got one last year and it was in NYC. I would LOVE to shoot a non-Western style wedding! Where can I sign up?! The fact is, it's difficult to get the business even if you want it/love it/support it. People hiring for Indian weddings want proof you've done it before so you know what you're getting into. Or, worse, if they know you're their first, they want it for free or cheap. It's that awful catch-22; you need experience to get the job, but to get the job you need experience.

It's a risk to take a chance on a photographer. But it can be worth it! And maybe you'll end being the one featured on their main page for the next couple to see.

This.  I used to work in weddings, and because the first few weddings I did were super traditional Catholic weddings, (and therefore that's what went in the portfolio), those were the types of clients I kept getting.  Nothing against traditional Catholic weddings, of course, but I would have loved to work on a wide variety of events.  This was years back, before gay marriage was legal.  And wedding blogs weren't really a thing back then either.

That said – I do get judgey if all the subjects on a photographer's website is stereotypically attractive.  I made the mistake of hiring of a wedding photographer who wasn't used to shooting curvy people, and he made us do these weird ass poses that probably look edgy and cool if you're a size 2, but look dumb as shit on fat people.  I don't know if he still shoots weddings, but I get the feeling that he would have rather been a fashion photog than a wedding photographer.

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April 30, 2014
9:00 pm
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salted caramel
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icicleicicle said
As a wedding photographer I just want to add some perspective.  I was dying to shoot a same-sex wedding even BEFORE they were legal in my state (CA). I only got one last year and it was in NYC. I would LOVE to shoot a non-Western style wedding! Where can I sign up?! The fact is, it's difficult to get the business even if you want it/love it/support it. People hiring for Indian weddings want proof you've done it before so you know what you're getting into. Or, worse, if they know you're their first, they want it for free or cheap. It's that awful catch-22; you need experience to get the job, but to get the job you need experience.

It's a risk to take a chance on a photographer. But it can be worth it! And maybe you'll end being the one featured on their main page for the next couple to see.

Thanks for your perspective, icicleicicle! I do realize that there are probably a lot of people like you out there, which makes me feel a bit better about humanity. My original comment was really a response to the many white-washed, completely non-diverse portfolios I came across that rubbed me the wrong way, and it sounds like yours isn't one of those. But (and I ask this in all honesty, so please feel free to reply honestly) what's so bad about offering a discount to your first LGBT or non-Western couple? It's a literal investment in your portfolio that's likely to bring in more clients in the future, and as you said yourself, the couple's putting a lot of trust in you. Free is obviously insulting, and depending on what you mean by 'cheap,' that probably is too, but a weekday rate for a weekend wedding, or something along those lines, seems like a win-win for both you and the couple.

 

Since this is GOMI and we're here to snark: is there a tumblr of those heads-cut-off wedding photos with random heads photoshopped on? Because there should be.

April 30, 2014
9:58 pm
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salted caramel said

icicleicicle said
As a wedding photographer I just want to add some perspective.  I was dying to shoot a same-sex wedding even BEFORE they were legal in my state (CA). I only got one last year and it was in NYC. I would LOVE to shoot a non-Western style wedding! Where can I sign up?! The fact is, it's difficult to get the business even if you want it/love it/support it. People hiring for Indian weddings want proof you've done it before so you know what you're getting into. Or, worse, if they know you're their first, they want it for free or cheap. It's that awful catch-22; you need experience to get the job, but to get the job you need experience.

It's a risk to take a chance on a photographer. But it can be worth it! And maybe you'll end being the one featured on their main page for the next couple to see.

Thanks for your perspective, icicleicicle! I do realize that there are probably a lot of people like you out there, which makes me feel a bit better about humanity. My original comment was really a response to the many white-washed, completely non-diverse portfolios I came across that rubbed me the wrong way, and it sounds like yours isn't one of those. But (and I ask this in all honesty, so please feel free to reply honestly) what's so bad about offering a discount to your first LGBT or non-Western couple? It's a literal investment in your portfolio that's likely to bring in more clients in the future, and as you said yourself, the couple's putting a lot of trust in you. Free is obviously insulting, and depending on what you mean by 'cheap,' that probably is too, but a weekday rate for a weekend wedding, or something along those lines, seems like a win-win for both you and the couple.

 

Since this is GOMI and we're here to snark: is there a tumblr of those heads-cut-off wedding photos with random heads photoshopped on? Because there should be.

salted caramel, when's your wedding? i'm serious. i'm trying to expand my portfolio, but i feel too inexperienced to accept money (especially not for wedding photography). i've already offered to do two weddings for friends this summer, but have recommended that they also hire a paid photographer and rely on me only to supplement/provide a second perspective. i'm trying to fit in a few more; i just don't know anyone else that's getting married soon and my summer schedule is a little packed with other events and my day-job. but i'd love to do a same-sex wedding and i'm not far (rhode island), so… if you're interested, feel free to shoot me a private message and hopefully i can accommodate you!

April 30, 2014
10:20 pm
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salted caramel
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double cool with knobs said

salted caramel said

icicleicicle said
As a wedding photographer I just want to add some perspective.  I was dying to shoot a same-sex wedding even BEFORE they were legal in my state (CA). I only got one last year and it was in NYC. I would LOVE to shoot a non-Western style wedding! Where can I sign up?! The fact is, it's difficult to get the business even if you want it/love it/support it. People hiring for Indian weddings want proof you've done it before so you know what you're getting into. Or, worse, if they know you're their first, they want it for free or cheap. It's that awful catch-22; you need experience to get the job, but to get the job you need experience.

It's a risk to take a chance on a photographer. But it can be worth it! And maybe you'll end being the one featured on their main page for the next couple to see.

Thanks for your perspective, icicleicicle! I do realize that there are probably a lot of people like you out there, which makes me feel a bit better about humanity. My original comment was really a response to the many white-washed, completely non-diverse portfolios I came across that rubbed me the wrong way, and it sounds like yours isn't one of those. But (and I ask this in all honesty, so please feel free to reply honestly) what's so bad about offering a discount to your first LGBT or non-Western couple? It's a literal investment in your portfolio that's likely to bring in more clients in the future, and as you said yourself, the couple's putting a lot of trust in you. Free is obviously insulting, and depending on what you mean by 'cheap,' that probably is too, but a weekday rate for a weekend wedding, or something along those lines, seems like a win-win for both you and the couple.

 

Since this is GOMI and we're here to snark: is there a tumblr of those heads-cut-off wedding photos with random heads photoshopped on? Because there should be.

salted caramel, when's your wedding? i'm serious. i'm trying to expand my portfolio, but i feel too inexperienced to accept money (especially not for wedding photography). i've already offered to do two weddings for friends this summer, but have recommended that they also hire a paid photographer and rely on me only to supplement/provide a second perspective. i'm trying to fit in a few more; i just don't know anyone else that's getting married soon and my summer schedule is a little packed with other events and my day-job. but i'd love to do a same-sex wedding and i'm not far (rhode island), so… if you're interested, feel free to shoot me a private message and hopefully i can accommodate you!

We actually JUST settled on a photographer, but I'll PM you anyway!

May 1, 2014
10:24 am
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Joans RaggedyNeedySoul
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Hi ladies, I'm a photographer who has done a few weddings (enough to not want to jump permanently to weddings!) and I have a ton of photogs on my blog list.  I love the spirit of Jasmine Star, but damn she's bubbly in her writing.  I loved it at first, but then it was like yeah, yeah yeah. let's see some pics!  I know lots of people don't like her style, but I honestly don't have a problem with it.  I attribute it to a west-coast look. Bright, sunny, overblown.  Not bad, just different.  LOVE Jose Villa.  His work is amazing!

 

Also on my love list is Jessica Claire. I need her to come out of baby retirement and start photographing again.  I feel like Jasmine Star knew some of the same people and kind of ripped off her style, only Jessica's is crisper, cleaner and has more brilliant colors — less wash out. She annoys me only slightly.

 

Can't stand Becker. His pics on the blog are grainy and overly saturated, and sometimes dark. Most of his brides are in an older demographic it seems, and they all come out looking rather harsh (can't think of a better term). Face shadows, highlighted age lines, orangey skin…all of that.  Maybe back in his heyday he was great, but I think he fell to the wayside.

 

One of my new loves is Elario photography — father & son team (big joe + jp), they seem to do huge weddings, I love seeing all the details and such at their venues.  All of their brides seem to have huge wedding parties & lots of $$ to spend.  Bonus is that they aren't annoying on the blog and blog engagements + weddings pretty frequently.

 

Katelyn James – eeeh, perky, cute and young, but she's getting quite monotonous with the straight from college crowd. 

 

Can anyone tell me where Bobbi & Mike have been this past year? They used to be frequent bloggers and then they just kind of fell off the radar it seems. I really like them.

**The Artist Formerly Known as LOLZ and Tearsofaclown**
May 1, 2014
11:47 am
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surrenderdorothy
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icicleicicle said
As a wedding photographer I just want to add some perspective.  I was dying to shoot a same-sex wedding even BEFORE they were legal in my state (CA). I only got one last year and it was in NYC. I would LOVE to shoot a non-Western style wedding! Where can I sign up?! The fact is, it's difficult to get the business even if you want it/love it/support it. People hiring for Indian weddings want proof you've done it before so you know what you're getting into. Or, worse, if they know you're their first, they want it for free or cheap. It's that awful catch-22; you need experience to get the job, but to get the job you need experience.

It's a risk to take a chance on a photographer. But it can be worth it! And maybe you'll end being the one featured on their main page for the next couple to see.

I was delighted when photographers even indicated that they were supportive of same-sex weddings in their FAQs or whatnot. We live in a conservative state (Utah) and so I had to send a lot of humiliating e-mails asking if photographers were okay with shooting a same-sex wedding (most of them were nice, and the rest just ignored us). Eventually we found a wonderful photographer who listed her business on gayweddings.com. I would have given my left arm for a little note on the website that said a photographer supported marriage equality! 

It's probably different in states that aren't run by the Mormons rolleyes but for me, that note or open indication was enough. 

May 1, 2014
3:49 pm
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icicleicicle
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salted caramel said

Thanks for your perspective, icicleicicle! I do realize that there are probably a lot of people like you out there, which makes me feel a bit better about humanity. My original comment was really a response to the many white-washed, completely non-diverse portfolios I came across that rubbed me the wrong way, and it sounds like yours isn't one of those. But (and I ask this in all honesty, so please feel free to reply honestly) what's so bad about offering a discount to your first LGBT or non-Western couple? It's a literal investment in your portfolio that's likely to bring in more clients in the future, and as you said yourself, the couple's putting a lot of trust in you. Free is obviously insulting, and depending on what you mean by 'cheap,' that probably is too, but a weekday rate for a weekend wedding, or something along those lines, seems like a win-win for both you and the couple.

Since this is GOMI and we're here to snark: is there a tumblr of those heads-cut-off wedding photos with random heads photoshopped on? Because there should be.

I suppose a discount isn't so bad, within reason. Personally, I'm more than happy to offer that for some things (I would offer a pretty big one for an Indian wedding). But some couples come to me and say, well, I'll give you $200 for your time and that's it, take it or leave it.  My time is worth more than that. My equipment costs money and requires money to maintain. Some people seem to think you show up on the day, push a button and that's the end, but the amount of time I'm going to spend editing your pictures is easily five times the amount of time I spent with you that day and it takes away from paying clients. Either you trust me enough to hire me or you don't. And if you do, you should pay me what you would pay anyone with experience. Does that make sense? 

 

About diversity: I'm not sure how to word this without it sounding mildly offensive. People often hire photographers whose portfolios reflect their own culture/ethnicity. Asian photographers have a ton of Asians in their portfolios because Asians hire other Asians. Hispanics want Hispanic photographers because they speak Spanish. It's pretty much that way across the board. Lack of diversity in a portfolio doesn't necessarily equal racist or discriminatory… it just might be how things turned out because that photographer lives in a predominantly white area and is white. 

May 1, 2014
10:50 pm
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washed up
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salted caramel said

KatieK said

salted caramel said

 

The one thing I really couldn't stand about photography portfolios, as a same-sex bride, is having to dig for an example of a same-sex couple. I got to the point where, if I didn't see one by page two or three, I crossed the photographer off my list no matter how much I liked them. I don't want to have to guess if the photographer is going to be enthusiastic about my wedding or not.

 

Not trying to be a jerk, but is this really necessary? Maybe they would love to shoot a same-sex wedding, but they haven't had the chance to yet. This is like when I see "entry level" job openings requiring one year of experience…how is a photographer ever going to get same sex wedding photos in his portfolio if no same sex couple hires him (and they didn't hire him because he didn't have the photos in his portfolio)? This is where I would think meeting with the photographer in person would be really helpful.

I started writing a snarky comment and deleted it, because I think this is a subject worth actually addressing.

Even though I'm out, my fiancee is out, and we're very much accepted by our families, it's amazing how much of our wedding planning process has been outing ourselves, over and over again, to every new vendor we approach. Wedding planning is stressful enough, and I feel like I'm continually holding my breath that the florist/the random person on the train who compliments my engagement ring/some distant family member is going to make their opinion about gay marriage known to me, subtly or otherwise, and my skin just isn't that thick.

There is no way I'm going to take time out of my day to meet with a photographer, sit down with them over a cup of coffee, and ask them, "Hey, this is a gay wedding. Is that cool with you?" Because maybe it isn't. And what then? How do you tell someone to their face that you think their relationship is fundamentally wrong? And how are you supposed to listen to someone say that to you?

For context, we're getting married in Boston, and since photography is a priority for us, we were looking only at established photographers with well-developed portfolios. I don't think there's any excuse for the number of all-straight (and, for that matter, extremely white) portfolios I looked at. For a photographer in a state without marriage equality, that's one thing. But not in MA, where it's been legal for a decade now.

If a photographer really wants to start working with queer couples, it's not hard to show a commitment to doing so. Do a just-for-fun couple's shoot with a queer couple you know, or if you don't know anyone, put a call out on your blog. Say explicitly that you're wanting to start shooting LGBT weddings, and you're willing to give a discount to the first queer couple you shoot. I mean– how does any new photographer build their portfolio? 

 

Anyway, hijacked

Maybe we should start an LGBT thread in Bridal Hams?

This is such an important perspective. Thanks for articulating what I was thinking.

May 2, 2014
5:07 am
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My 2014 wedding photography vent? Negative space.

 

Any photo which is basically the top of the couple's heads and then the rest is sky is going to be one which no one ever looks at in an album with any kind of anything. Are your kids going to want to keep a photo of the tops of your heads and some clouds for posterity? I think not (except for laughing at how dated mum and dad's wedding photos are).  I have seen some absolute shockers in this vein, with actual literal tops of heads, cropped off below the eyes, cropped off at the forehead etc What is the actual point of this?

May 2, 2014
7:38 am
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Goobernaut

snarkybee said

breakfast pit of despair said
When I was planning my wedding (5 years ago) I would skip websites that didn't offer some sort of pricing information – I wasn't going to waste my time calling people who might not be in my price range. 

 

In the end we got INCREDIBLY lucky – I found an absolutely amazing photographer who was just starting her professional business out – got her +1 for the entire day, she edited and processed something like 100 of the pictures, and we got all the pictures on a disc with a release.  We also got an engagement session from her included w/ all the pictures/release blah blah blah.  Because she was starting out we got her for $300 – I still refer people to her but now her price is $3000.  It's always my #1 tip for brides-to-be that I know, find people who are starting out (but have a great portfolio) – the price will often reflect the starting-out-ness of all of it.  

THIS. as a "just getting started" wedding photographer, I love hearing stories like this. thank you for taking a risk on us newbies high-five

This is wonderful. I am also just starting out in the world of photography. Well, I'm not a total newb, but I am new to being in my own business and getting a feel of what I like to photograph. My first shoots (outside of my friends and family) were advertised on a free website asking to shoot families, all done for free. Some even gave me some cash because they were super happy with the service/photos. I am at the stage now where people are asking me if I shoot weddings but I haven't, so I can't offer them my services just yet. I am looking at being a second-shooter for a while or doing some wedding workshops at least, then entering the world of wedding photography quite cheap.

If you can get photographers that need to build their portfolio in an area of photography (but other areas of their portfolio look good) you can get a decent photographer for your wedding quite cheap. It's normal for them to up their price once they become more in-demand. 

 

I'd be looking on free websites such as Craigslist or even check out the local collages that have photography students. 

May 2, 2014
8:50 am
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Sister Monica Joan
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Is that Becker dude popular? His website was awful and it's weird that his business is called "The Becker." That just sounds like a bad high school nickname. Also, photographers still do sepia tone?? scared

 

I really enjoy Katelyn James "Ask Anything" series on her blog. I appreciate all the business advice and the few photographers who are out there offering it. I've finally been able to start investing in some really good lenses and they have helped me figure out some that are worth investing in and lenses that are not.

May 2, 2014
8:58 am
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Sister Monica Joan
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Goobernaut said

snarkybee said

breakfast pit of despair said
When I was planning my wedding (5 years ago) I would skip websites that didn't offer some sort of pricing information – I wasn't going to waste my time calling people who might not be in my price range. 

 

In the end we got INCREDIBLY lucky – I found an absolutely amazing photographer who was just starting her professional business out – got her +1 for the entire day, she edited and processed something like 100 of the pictures, and we got all the pictures on a disc with a release.  We also got an engagement session from her included w/ all the pictures/release blah blah blah.  Because she was starting out we got her for $300 – I still refer people to her but now her price is $3000.  It's always my #1 tip for brides-to-be that I know, find people who are starting out (but have a great portfolio) – the price will often reflect the starting-out-ness of all of it.  

THIS. as a "just getting started" wedding photographer, I love hearing stories like this. thank you for taking a risk on us newbies high-five

This is wonderful. I am also just starting out in the world of photography. Well, I'm not a total newb, but I am new to being in my own business and getting a feel of what I like to photograph. My first shoots (outside of my friends and family) were advertised on a free website asking to shoot families, all done for free. Some even gave me some cash because they were super happy with the service/photos. I am at the stage now where people are asking me if I shoot weddings but I haven't, so I can't offer them my services just yet. I am looking at being a second-shooter for a while or doing some wedding workshops at least, then entering the world of wedding photography quite cheap.

If you can get photographers that need to build their portfolio in an area of photography (but other areas of their portfolio look good) you can get a decent photographer for your wedding quite cheap. It's normal for them to up their price once they become more in-demand. 

 

I'd be looking on free websites such as Craigslist or even check out the local collages that have photography students. 

You two should PM me where you live if it's in the US. I second shoot with a company that's almost nation wide and they have a pool of second shooters that you may be able to join. One thing I did was reach out to local photographers and offer my help if they ever needed a second shooter. I sent them my website with examples of my work.

 

You can always check out http://www.secondshooters.com/ but I never had any luck with them.



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